What does E* have that D* doesn't?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by -Draino-, Jun 19, 2010.

  1. Jun 19, 2010 #1 of 135

    -Draino- Godfather

    May 18, 2008
    New Hampshire
    Most of us here are DTV fans and for various reasons. If DTV is truly better how is it that Dish convinces customers to sign up to their service?

    The only commercials I see from Dish are the "same TV for less" commercials, but that can't possibly be enough all by itself.

    What do you think it is?:confused:
  2. Jun 19, 2010 #2 of 135

    volkl Legend

    Jun 17, 2007
    Dish used to be cheaper...don't know now after some of their new fees.

    Dish packages are better for movie fans. I've had both, and my opinion is the SD picture quality of Dish was better, side by side. (Never had Dish HD, but many say the HD of Direct is better.) The Dish receivers are supposed to be faster and better, though that difference is quickly diminishing. I loved my 7200 SD DVR from Dish. Dish allows one to subscribe to adult channels beyond Playboy channel.

    Dish & Direct compete, and if one is not a sports fan, the advantage switches between the two of them over time. We seem poised for a period where Direct will offer more HD, but we will see.
  3. Jun 19, 2010 #3 of 135
    Carl Spock

    Carl Spock Superfly

    Sep 3, 2004
    Aren't you in the wrong forum for this?
  4. Jun 19, 2010 #4 of 135

    werinshades Cool Member

    Oct 10, 2007
  5. Jun 19, 2010 #5 of 135

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    I know someone that has Dish primarily because he was told that DirecTV is for sports fans.

    For some, it could be as simple as Dish had their locals, either SD or in HD without having to do OTA.
  6. Jun 19, 2010 #6 of 135

    barryb New Member

    Aug 26, 2007
    Agreed Carl. This should be in a Dish forum to get the answer the OP is looking for.
  7. Jun 19, 2010 #7 of 135

    TDK1044 Godfather

    Apr 8, 2010
    I was with Dish for ten years and I've now been with D* for just over a year. In my opinion, both providers offer a very similar service in terms of packages offered, but D* offers better HD picture quality and they will offer more channels in HD over the next 2 years because of them recently launching D12 and fixing D10. :)
  8. Jun 19, 2010 #8 of 135

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Perceived price difference is pretty much it.

    Forget "better" hardware. The average customer knows nothing about that. Forget "better" SD PQ quality. Again, average customer doesn't care that much. A lot of it comes down to people who want "cable in the sky" (not a knock, I mean the channel selection...basic channels) or their locals or more movie channels. But mostly it comes down to a preception of being cheaper.

    Me, I see Dish as a PITA. More dishes, line of sight issues, complicated channel lineup (I spent a week in a Dish household two years ago and never got the hang of where the channels are...they even differ from location to location), lack of out of market sports, poorer HD PQ quality.

    But I am a geek and check all this out.

    Edit to add: I also think Dish is a regional thing to some extent. I drive through some areas and see a cluster of Dish dishes. I leave that up to local retailers (storefront installers other than BB or the like, rural antenna installers with Dish connections). That will push people locally. Own a farm in south central PA? My local antenna guy will give me a deal on Dish!
  9. Jun 19, 2010 #9 of 135

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    What does Dish have that DirecTV doesn't have?

    Hmmm...pending lawsuits for blatant patent infringement, the impending removing of DVR's from customers homes, HD-Lite, multiple dish requirements, a habit of launching new channels on satellites many customers are unable to pick up before upgrading their equipment, a history of channel disputes, and a distant second place reputation.
  10. Jun 19, 2010 #10 of 135

    BKC Icon

    Dec 12, 2007
    Dish has pretty good audio.....
  11. Jun 19, 2010 #11 of 135

    drpjr Icon

    Nov 23, 2007
    E* uses a much prettier gray paint on their dish than D*. :rolleyes:;)
  12. Jun 19, 2010 #12 of 135

    jasonblair Icon

    Sep 5, 2006
    Terre Haute locals... for the time being
  13. Jun 19, 2010 #13 of 135

    ans2004 Mentor

    Oct 27, 2008
    I am a movie guy, however i will not switch to dish just for that. I like the fulltime rsn's. they have good shows on when games aint being played. Also, next week we get some more movie channels in hd. Some old and some new. new are HBO ZONE, STARZ CINEMA, SHOWTIME WOMEN, SHOWTIME BEYOND, SHOWTIME NEXT, THE MOVIE CHANNEL XTRA. old are HBO 2, STARZ IN BLACK, ENCORE. i am excited for these channels. i also know that we patience comes reward. i am sure we will get many other new channels this year.
  14. Jun 19, 2010 #14 of 135

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    With all those multiple dish setup's they need to try to make them look prettier. ;)

    I know Dish is moving to a single dish setup but here in Austin I'm still seeing new installs going in with two dish's.
  15. Jun 19, 2010 #15 of 135

    Glen_D Legend

    Oct 21, 2006
    I think one thing Dish has that DirecTV doesn't is a better deal for the customer looking for a basic setup with a programming package that includes just the basic popular channels.

    For example, Dish offers AT120 w/o locals currently for $34.99/month, after expiration of promotional pricing. If you are already getting your locals with an OTA antenna, you don't need to pay the extra $5/month for locals. With the "Free HD for LIfe" promotion, you can get HD channels included at no additional cost, if you want. Depending on what model receiver you get, you could turn it into a DVR for a one time setup fee of $40 + cost of an external hard drive.

    Isn't DirecTV's Choice package something like $54-55/month now?
  16. Jun 19, 2010 #16 of 135

    freerein100 Legend

    Dec 13, 2007
    A co-worker has Dish* and they just launched locals. he has an eastern arc dish, the installer said he needs a second dish for locals but the only acceptable signal is where his dish 500 was which is 200 ft from his main dish, installer said it can't be done so no locals for him and he is not happy
  17. Jun 19, 2010 #17 of 135

    espnjason Armchair Referee

    Sep 30, 2008
    And he made a money commitment over that?
    I swear, some people never look at the whole picture.

    From what I understood, E* has more "niche" PPV plus a broader scope of international and multiplex channels, although I don't care for either.
    I still hope D* can pull through and get HBO Comedy. That's the one channel I am truly missing.
  18. Jun 19, 2010 #18 of 135

    tgater Godfather

    Jul 24, 2007
    My sister in law has E* becuase just the basics are less than D*'s. However she might as well have rabbit ears.
  19. Jun 19, 2010 #19 of 135

    camo Godfather

    Apr 15, 2010
    You don't get the audio drop outs with Dish in HD. That's a plus as I watch ESPNU HD.
    And you get a better selection of movie premiums with Dish.
    Everything else Direct is better. The 722 receivers with Dish were actually slow at times. I went through two hard drives in 2 years but Dish customer service was good if you could understand them.
    If Direct would fix their on going audio problems it would win hands down for the sports programming I lean toward.
    If they don't, I'll migrate back to Dish after next year when they go full time in HD on RSN's .
  20. Jun 19, 2010 #20 of 135

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Hence my comment about "cable in the sky."

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