What does E* have that D* doesn't?

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  1. Jun 19, 2010 #21 of 135
    -Draino-

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    Is the picture quality really different? I know compression plays a role, but is it really noticeable?
     
  2. Jun 19, 2010 #22 of 135
    camo

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    I can't tell the difference but never did a side by side comparison. But others say the HD with Direct is better. Unfortunately I shut my Dish service off the say day Direct was installed.
    I thought Dish SD was really bad and someone else thinks its better. RSN SD games were flat unwatchable that's why I went with Direct that carried my RSN in full time HD.
     
  3. Jun 20, 2010 #23 of 135
    prushing

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    Dish can send the send the 2nd tuner to another TV.

    This is a big deal for the non-technical people, they don't see the benefits of having a 2nd HD receiver or HDDVR.
     
  4. Jun 20, 2010 #24 of 135
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    I was a long time cable customer before switching to satellite. Unfortunately, I went with DISH because they offered the better deal. Or so I thought. You definitely get what you pay for. I was plagued with spotty reception, and dealing with customer service was a miserable ordeal. I finally broke my contract and went back to cable because I was so fed up. No matter what the deal offered, I will never go back to DISH.

    I was reluctant to lock myself into another contract with another satellite company, but DIRECTV offered such a better HDTV lineup than my cable company that I finally gave them a try. I am so glad I switched. The PQ has been excellent, service has been perfect, and customer service has always been helpful.
     
  5. Jun 20, 2010 #25 of 135
    dtvmike1652

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    Ok the top 120 deal is ok but Directv also has one as well that's pretty much the same. It's called Select. They don't advertise the price but if you're looking to save money they will offer it to you. It pretty much offers all of the same channels as the 120 and is only $39.99 a month every day price. It has 128 channels and has most of the major networks in it including locals if available.
     
  6. Jun 20, 2010 #26 of 135
    dtvmike1652

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    Yes they can send that to another tv but what you have to look at is that if that receiver goes out then you lose it on both tv's not just one. Plus if you have HD it would be HD on one tv and SD on the second. Not to mention Dish charges $7-$17 per receiver depending on the type you have. $5 everytime that you change your package and another $5 per receiver that's not hooked to a phone line. Then they'll charge you $25 for suspending your account if you go on vacation and won't be there at your home to watch your service. $40 if you want to hook an external hard drive to your dvr. All of these are free with Directv except for $5 for receiver fees. So is it really worth it to have the 1 receiver that works 2 rooms. Not in my opinion.
     
  7. Jun 20, 2010 #27 of 135
    Glen_D

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    True, but Select is a retention-only package. No guarantee they will offer it to you. You would probably have to start out with Choice, then threaten to cancel your service after your two year contract is over to get the Select package.

    Would you be able to get "Free HD" with Select?
     
  8. Jun 20, 2010 #28 of 135
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    A few mis-statements are coming out here.

    No $5 phone line fee is charged these days with E*, it has been gone for quite awhile.

    External HD fee is $40 one time, but it supports an additional HD, not replaced. I can and do record onto the external HD and can move it to another Vip HDDVR, including the replacement if I upgrade or have an issue and the stuff on it will play on the new HDDVR just fine.

    The change fee for programming is only if you drop a premium. They used to waive it pretty regularly, but not so much recently.

    The receiver fees are definitely an irritant, but only apply to additional ones past the first.

    As to the PQ in HD, to my eyes on my 54" Plasma the two are a bit different with neither being better than the other and barely noticeable. I tested that when I had both services.

    In SD, I think E* has better SD on the HDDVRs than D*. Not hugely so, but better.

    For D*, the HR24 seems to be the right box at the right time. When I had D*, I had the HR20 and then a HR21. The 20 was better and quicker but for whatever reason, just wouldn't work properly in my house. The HR21 worked but after a few updates, got so painfully slow I switched.

    Two things that the Vip722k does that the HR24 doesn't do that I like are recording 2 SAT and 2 OTA channels at once and my timers and settings are saved in my remote so if a changeout is made I can reload them instantly.

    I like the idea of MRV, I think that is hands down a better way of sharing video throughout the house than the way E* is doing it now.

    As for programming, 6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other except for sports.
     
  9. Jun 20, 2010 #29 of 135
    Rusty_Clown

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    It's not the cost savings, in my case. By the time I recouped the $300 for equipment to E* my 2 year contract would have expired. I also would lose a HD Local. The big reason I considered switching (and still might if they don't fix it) is the audio problems I am experiencing with D*. With D* adding more HD, everything my wife and I watch is now HD, so whomever has more of the channels I don't watch is irrelevant to me.
     
  10. Jun 20, 2010 #30 of 135
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    HD lite;)
     
  11. Jun 20, 2010 #31 of 135
    lparsons21

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    I always like this one, it makes me laugh. The difference between the two services in HD to the eye is minimal. But if a spec sheet makes you feel better... :)
     
  12. Jun 20, 2010 #32 of 135
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    When D* had HD-Lite and E* didn't the E* folks always were saying that D* had worst PQ, look they're not sending out full resolution HD so how could it look good while D* folks said that it looked fine to them. Now that things are flipped with the providers I see the same posts just reverse the vendors names.

    What it comes down to is if you're happy with the PQ who cares what others think, just as long as your happy.
     
  13. Jun 20, 2010 #33 of 135
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    You've all missed the obvious. What does Dish have that DirecTV hasn't? Charlie Ergen (take that however you want!)
     
  14. Jun 20, 2010 #34 of 135
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    Let me get this straight;

    Except for the ability to send one of their DVR's tuner outputs to another TV, dish has no truly comparable MRV or Whole Home DVR Service solution like DirecTV's DECA as of yet?

    Not even any MRV via ethernet?

    And I thought I heard that their latest DVR (the "Vip 922" is it? And do they still generically call all their DVRs "dishplayers?") have a built in SlingBox?
     
  15. Jun 20, 2010 #35 of 135
    lparsons21

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    Well, you realize that supported MRV is really new for D*, don't you? It isn't like they had anything that would distribute at all before that.

    And yes, the 922 has Sling support built-in, but it is suffering a few glitches from what I read.
     
  16. Jun 20, 2010 #36 of 135
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    No my surprise is in that it took DirecTV seemingly forever to come out with an MRV system, therefore I would have thought that dish would be way ahead of the game by now in this area like the other service providers FiOS and U-verse were.
     
  17. Jun 20, 2010 #37 of 135
    lparsons21

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    I would agree with that. Given that E* was making hay with the one unit-two rooms marketing for so long, it would have been a natural (and should have been quicker) progression to 2 HD connections.

    On the D* side, I keep reading a bit. It seems that the H24/HR24 is the best combo to do MRV with. How are the older HRs holding up to the pressure?
     
  18. Jun 20, 2010 #38 of 135
    YKW06

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    What does Dish have that D* doesn't? Superstations, a much lower-priced Sports Pak and lower equipment prices. If Charlie hadn't given up the MLB package a few years ago, I likely would never have left.
     
  19. Jun 20, 2010 #39 of 135
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    Select is not a retention package. It is available to anyone that requests it. Some CSR's are ignorant of it being available, but a call back to another CSR will secure Select, with locals ($39.99), or without locals ($36.99).
     
  20. Jun 20, 2010 #40 of 135
    Glen_D

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    Maybe, but if I'm a new customer, can I start off by just getting Select at $36.99/month? If so, would there be a commitment, or could I cancel my service at any time without penalty? What about HD with Select? Would it be free also?

    My point is that AT120 is an offical programming package at Dish that is eligible for new customer promotional pricing and free HD. Since DirecTV doesn't officially list Select as an available package, and only makes it available upon request (maybe) or as a retention tool (maybe), I doubt that very many people even know it exists.
     

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