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What does XM-Sirius merger mean for Directv subs?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by tstarn, Feb 19, 2007.

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  1. jcurrier31

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    It just shows how sad it is that they truly believe that if they force price to go up people will actually listen to the crappy local radio stations. Nobody wants to listen to 3 songs an hour followed by 49 minutes of commercials. Oh don't forget that will be the same 3 songs the next hour. If the price gets too high people will just pop in a cd or their IPOD and let it roll.

    I also think it is funny how gullible Americans are to support a made up organization that serves no purpose but to line the pockets of the insane lefties
     
  2. Steve Mehs

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    Jcurrier, where have you been my entire life? :D

    I couldn't agree more! :up:
     
  3. machavez00

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    There is also the push for the revival of the "Fairness Doctrine". Many right of center talkers have stated they would go to satellite if the "Fairness Doctrine " was revived. With satellite radio out of the way there will be one less refuge for talk show hosts. We will then be "left" with Airhead America stations. The Left wants their monopoly on media sources back.
     
  4. jpl

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    One expression I heard one time, while listening to someone (forget who) talk about the role of government in the markets really stuck with me - Markets have no corners. Meaning, folks who try to "corner the market" are engaging in futility. The market will find a way to get around any kind of goofy regulation designed to contain it. You would have thought that the music industry would have learned this lesson already. The reason that CDs are now so much cheaper than in the past is that the music industry, in an attempt to control the market, shot themselves in the foot. Keeping prices high for CDs led to the advent of things like Napster, and other sources of digital music. In an attempt to placate the market - they started cutting the price for recorded music. But it was largely too late - now the market has changed, and the music industry is left trying to figure out how to capitalize on it.

    I agree with the sentiment that, apart from talk radio, radio is a waste of the airwaves. I try to put on a music station, and am subjected to repeats of the same music, insipid comments by the DJ, and 3 times as much time spent on commercials and other interruptions as music.

    Part of me almost wishes they would reinstate the fairness doctrine (as much as I detest it) - forcing commentators over to services like XM and Sirius, and would cause the collapse of traditional radio. It would serve as one heck of a wake-up call.
     
  5. Geronimo

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    Sirius hasa lower per share price but ahigher market capitalization. Not all companies have the same number of shares. Per share price alone means nothing.
     
  6. jpl

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    Not to sound like a geek, but how do the P/E ratios compare? I'd look it up myself except:

    1) I'm too darn lazy
    2) You already seem to have the numbers in front of you

    I have no real reason for asking the question except for general interest in the relative solvency of each company.
     
  7. ecurrie

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    You know, if you weren't such a racist, bigot, you would realize that these issues make great strides in leveling the playing field! If these two conglomerates merge, this may eliminate my ability to get into the satellite radio business. You are stifling my ability to start a business. The government doesn't want to finance my business, so the playing feild MUST BE EVEN!
     
  8. ecurrie

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    At least, that's what liberal racist bigots tell us conservatives.
     
  9. Paul Secic

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    The stupid RIAA will sue anyone and anything. GREEDY! They sunk Napster, Broadcast.com. I hate thosee morons.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  10. mitchelljd

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    why would you want to keep him off? if you dont want to listen to that channel. DONT

    freedom of speech is vital to society. don't be a hater!
     
  11. mitchelljd

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    what, you probably don't believe people need to pay for music. why buy a cd? why pay for downloads?

    because artists, songwriters, producers, managers, promotion, A&R, marketing all need to make a living.

    you need gas to drive your car, but you can't steal that, why is this any better.

    also, napster is still around, just in a LEGAL form now.
     
  12. Steve Mehs

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    And what % of the cut goes to the RIAA? Artists make more on ticket sales, tshirts, et al then CDs thanks to the RIAA. All RIAA does is make everyone a pirate and I'm a proud music pirate. I use XM and Sirius to find music to steal so I can put it on my iPod. First the old Napster, the Kazaa Lite, now Limewire. I didn't pay for music back in the 90s when I recorded it off of FM radio, and I'm sure as hell not paying for it now to put it on my iPod.
     
  13. machavez00

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    The recording industry lost their lawsuit against terrestrial radio years ago. They wanted radio stations to pay royalties to play music. The courts ruled that it was "free advertising" of the music and artist. Along came home recording, another lawsuit. Then came internet radio, one the RIAA came out on top. Internet radio has to pay to play music. Then there is the RIAA's cohorts, BMA and ASCAP and their tactics: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1993...-waiting-to-make-an-example-of-your-business/ The jukebox owner pays when they buy the cds; they pay royalties for the jukebox; they pay a percentage of the monies taken in; you pay when you drop coin to play the music; the bar/restraunt pays for having a music. ASCAP/BMI have gone after businesses for having a radio playing! I realise the artist deserve to get paid, but little of what is collected gets to them.
    Bottom line, it's all about the Benjamins
     
  14. Dolly

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    I'm moving this thread back up because I now have a vehicle with XM Radio. It is a three month trail deal. I called and talked with a Rep about pricing and she was telling me the current pricing. Then she mentioned the merger next year. She talked about it like it was a "done deal", however, it is my understanding that it hasn't yet been approved :confused: And if XM-Sirius can merge why couldn't D and E*?
    (Not that I would really want D and E* to merge).
     
  15. Steve Mehs

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    The merger is not a done deal far from it and hopefully never will be. A 180 day clock has been set up to review the merger, this works out to be December 8th as the final day of judgment. The FCC, DOJ and SEC will have to approve.

    Satellite Radio and Satellite TV are similar industries, but there is some worry that without a merger one or both of the satellite radio providers will go belly up, I don't believe that for a second but there was never that same worry with Dish and DirecTV at the time of their merger hearings.
     
  16. Dolly

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    That's what I thought that the deal hadn't been done yet at all. But she said they had just had a meeting about it before I called. So they are making plans anyway. And if a company of any kind can't make it I think they should go belly up. I think XM is the one that is going to be "bought out" so may be they are just preparing for what they think is the inevitable.
     
  17. Steve Mehs

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    It's supposed to be a 'merger of equals' but the last time a company I supported was supposed to have a 'merger of equals' there was nothing equal about it. Nextel & Sprint. I didn’t want that to happen either. Sirius CEO, Mel Karmazin, would assumethe CEO roll of a merged company. Yesterday (or two days ago), a 91 page document was released on the potential pricing and packaging structures, XM and Sirius are doing a lot to try to plead their case, they are getting everything planned out and will just wait for the green light, or hopefully it will all be for nothing and there will be no merger.
     
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