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What good was D12

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by s57061b, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Nov 11, 2010 #21 of 214
    Indiana627

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    Put me in the underwhelmed category for the impact D12 had on adding national HD channels.
     
  2. Nov 11, 2010 #22 of 214
    MysteryMan

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    As a Premier and HD Extra Pack sub I am pleased with what we got but won't be completely sastified until AMC HD, FMC HD, TCM HD, BBCA HD and The Military Channel HD are added.
     
  3. Nov 11, 2010 #23 of 214
    sigma1914

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    Will do!


    *Indiana627 added to Underwhelmed category*

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  4. Nov 11, 2010 #24 of 214
    Hutchinshouse

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    :lol:
     
  5. Nov 11, 2010 #25 of 214
    smhc29

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    Hopefully more in the New Year
     
  6. Nov 11, 2010 #26 of 214
    Hutchinshouse

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    +1

    Welcome!
     
  7. Nov 11, 2010 #27 of 214
    djwww98

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    D12 has done wonders for me. I used to have HD. Now I don't. Nice job DirecTV.
     
  8. Nov 11, 2010 #28 of 214
    BigRedFan

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    The hype surrounding D12 was basically one giant DirecTV marketing lie...

    DirecTV created the brand perception that the new satellite would take us to 200 + HD channels (real channels, not PPV's) and got away with not being called on it (by the FTC, consumer groups, etc.)....

    Advertising Age, Ad Week, and Media Week should do stories on DTV's advertising lie "success" surrounding D12... It's a very effective case study for business schools everywhere....

    And the big D12 lie continues today....On the DirecTV website, when you click on the "HD" section, you'll see a customer testimonial that says:

    "With DIRECTV, just about everything is in HD."-- Terry

    "Everything" ?.... Man, they're good !
     
  9. Nov 11, 2010 #29 of 214
    hdtvfan0001

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    Good thing nobody buys this kinda stuff....the sky is falling...the sky is falling...

    !rolling
     
  10. Nov 11, 2010 #30 of 214
    marker101

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    !rolling Simple, yet so very amusing. Good job.
     
  11. Nov 11, 2010 #31 of 214
    Hoosier205

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    No lies were told. If you misunderstood, you misunderstood. They promised the capacity for 200+ channels and they delivered on that promise. It's as simple as that. They never promised 200+ channels, only the capacity for them.

    Also, read the very quote you posted:


    "With DIRECTV, just about everything is in HD."

    The "just about" portion is important. The vast majority of channels are available in HD via DirecTV. Some are not.
     
  12. Nov 11, 2010 #32 of 214
    hilmar2k

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    Haven't we beaten this topic to death? How many HD threads do we need?

    Every one of these threads goes the same way, some people complain about the lack of HD, and others will defend the amount of HD to the death. Can't we just accept that some are disappointed and some are not?
     
  13. Nov 11, 2010 #33 of 214
    djwww98

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    Do you think I'm lying? I had HD for 2 years. They just turned local HD off in my county. I've explained this with lots of words and had lots of words in response, but it's simple:
    I paid for HD.
    I invested in HD DVR.
    I invested in HD TV.
    I had HD for two years. Worked fine.
    I still pay for HD.
    Two days ago, they took local HD away.
    There's really nothing you can say that defends that except extreme incompetence. Add a satallite and expand service? Didn't work out to good for me.
    So I'm a troll.
    Defend your statement.
     
  14. Nov 11, 2010 #34 of 214
    Hoosier205

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    You're blaming DirecTV for complying with an FCC regulation. -misplaced angst-
     
  15. Nov 11, 2010 #35 of 214
    hilmar2k

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    We sure that's the reason? I thought it was stated that DIRECTV did that to limit service calls in the fringe areas. So now if an entire zip code doesn't fall well within the spot, no one in that zip can get HD locals.

    Is that not the reason?
     
  16. Nov 11, 2010 #36 of 214
    SPACEMAKER

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    I would be beyond pissed if I had HD locals through D* (I never have, I use OTA) and they suddenly pulled the plug. I would threaten to cancel every 6 months and milk as many discounts and freebies as possible. And I wouldn't feel bad about it one bit.
     
  17. Nov 11, 2010 #37 of 214
    djwww98

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    A couple of them couldn't explain anything, but yeah, one of them said something close to that. "If some people in a zip code don't get a good signal, then nobody in that zip code can have it, or it wouldn't be fair." Really. Let me say that again; "If some people in zip code don't get a good signal, then nobody in that zip code can have it, or it wouldn't be fair." I really have a hard time believing that the FCC decided that. When I mentioned I might have to look at other options, he reminded me of my 2 year obligation, of which a year and a half is still remaining. Outstanding way to do business.
     
  18. Nov 11, 2010 #38 of 214
    djwww98

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    Hey, hdtvfan0001, I'm still waiting for a defense.
    I'm a troll?
    Really? Anybody else here think I'm a troll?
     
  19. Nov 11, 2010 #39 of 214
    Hoosier205

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    Once again...complain to the FCC.
     
  20. Nov 11, 2010 #40 of 214
    djwww98

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    That's not what I asked. I asked if I was a troll for bringing it up.
    Regarding your point, we can discuss it: I find it hard to believe that bureaucrats in the FCC are concerned with the fairness of strength of signal differences within a given zip code. It sounds more like interpretations of regulations passed through the meat grinder of a massive corporation coming out at the other end totally twisted. I work for a massive organization; I've seen it happen before. Input at one end does not in any way resemble what comes out at the other end. I would bet money that if you explained this situation to someone at the FCC, they would not be able to identify in any reasonable way how their regs end up with this result. And yes, I could complain to the FCC, but do you think it would do any good? Of course not. I believe this is just incompetence on the part of DirecTV... incompetence in interpreting and implimenting regulations.
     

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