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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by s57061b, Nov 11, 2010.
Hallelujah I say...hallelujah.
Well, Comcast, TWC, Cablevision and Dish all carry them (BBC, AMC, and IFC). That seems awfully close to "all", doesn't it?
FIOS? Mediacom? CableOne? Midcontinent?
To be fair .. most of the hype was here @ DBSTalk. We had a year-long thread waiting for it's arrival. While I haven't followed closely, I think DIRECTV has technically done what they've said .. BUT .. it's of little solace for those that haven't been able to watch the programming that they want to watch as they are still waiting.
I get it .. D12 has been a disappointment to some folks.
Let's stick with D12 disappointment in this thread .. HD anticipation should go in the master thread.
Didn't check FIOS. Midcontinent has 200k subs and CableOne has 720k subs. Not sure how many Mediacom has, but they are nowhere near the size of the ones I mentioned. Hell, there are hundfreds of little guys I left out. I am only comparing DIRECTV to the major players (though I admittedly omitted FIOS).
Um, the lack of the channels I listed is my D12 disappointment. Not sure how I could be more on topic.
The trajectory of the various D12 threads closely reflects posts advanced in D11 discussions. It is patent DirecTV’s post-Murdoch management simply ascribes less importance to basic national HD channels than many of its competitors, thereby accounting for difficulties in consummating contracts not encountered by others. I am disappointed by many aspects of DirecTV: absence of HD LIL in my DMA, failure to offer national channels available from Dish and continuing problems with audio dropouts, for example. Yet all is trumped – at least for me – by NFL:ST and other sports packages.
I could not agree more with that. While I have a few complaints (you listed them pretty well), I am still overall satisfied with DIRECTV....mostly because I am an out-of-market sports fan.
I'm still disappointed with some major holes in the HD offerings and was really expecting them to be filled with D12 (had to get D12 in there to stay on topic ).
When someone is choosing between providers, the number 1 category the "average" consumer looks at (when comparing providers) is the actual list of basic HD channels provided.
Not Sports, (these days with Netflix) not PPV, not even premiums, just the basic HD channel list. Directv no longer is the leader in the basic HD category and has been a disappoint for more than "some".
Choosing a provider by the basic HD channel list is by far the number 1 factor in making a provider decision for the average consumer.
This is based on market research my company has done for dealers in numerous markets. Just sharing some information...that's all!
Yes I know and understand Directv makes a lot of money with PPV, Sports...etc.
TWC in Dallas doesn't carry BBCA-HD or IFC-HD.
[ Watch what happens to Dish rates over the next 90 days or so, now that they succumbed to paying the higher Fox prices and despite venver restoring some of the Disney group channels...some of us don't see the value in those channels to be held hostage for a random pet program here and there on AMC HD or BBCHD, thank you.[/QUOTE]
So you don't think DirecTV will be raising rates in the next 90-120 days or so like they usually do every year? Or maybe you're saying Dish's rates will increase by a much higher percentage than DirecTV's.
Yeah but I don't live in Dalls.
You should be careful to note that you're talking about HD LIL if that's what your beef is (and I assume that it is). I don't think it is reasonable to assume that D12 impacted your eligibility for HD LIL since you were receiving HD LIL before D12. Ka band hasn't turned out to be all that some reasoned/hoped it would be.
Such is not to say that you don't have a huge beef with losing your HD LIL -- you most certainly do. You are a victim of poor short-term (hopefully) planning on DIRECTV's part.
This has nothing to do with FCC regulations. It has to do with zipcodes that are on the fringe of the used spotbeam. Directv's granularity stops at zipcode. If they don't feel an entire (for some definition of entire) zipcode can reliably receive a signal then they don't offer it to anyone because it's not possible for them to determine eligibility over the phone. It's simply to avoid a customer service nightmare. It's easier for them just to say, 'sorry, your zipcode doesn't have it available'. If it were an FCC thing then the SD channels would be unavailable as well.
Other than the most ardent of "fanboys" (I hate that term but it fits here) most everyone seems to be at least a little disappointed in D12. But this is a situation where there is no better option for me. If there were I'd be gone in a second as I don't harbor any emotional loyalty to any company. I just want what I want.
Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skulls was a bigger disappointment.
I've gone down to a slow burn on this one. I've checked my options and while I could get HD from either my phone or cable company, each have very few HD channels and none that DirecTV doesn't provide. My only alternative would be to add Dish and that seems stupid. I can't switch because their lower HD resolution would bother me.
Now that's a really lovely feeling to have for a company - stewing resentment. :nono:
They are a business and therefore make business decisions. You and others may not like their decisions and are free to go to another provider.
Other services might provide the channels you want but not other channels that others want. The choice is there.
I can honestly say that the stuff I personally wanted showed up as a result of D12, so on a personal level .. I'm not disappointed in D12 at all (ESPNU-HD, CSNBA-HD). I think it rocks. That can't be said of everyone, though.
From the status thread ...
DirecTV-12 Utilization - assuming 80 "slots" (5 per transponder):
[table="head"]D12 Count|Description (link to transponder map)
22|Network HD (including 3 RSN)
2|3D (Cinema, n3D)
2|SD (GEB, Free Speech) - could be further utilized
1|"Demo" - added prior to CEDIA Expo (9/22/2010)
5|TEST - 9768-9772 added to guide data in February