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What happend to my HR34!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by gio12, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. Aug 10, 2012 #81 of 131
    TXD16

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    Okay, I'll admit that at this point I'm just throwing numbers out there, but assuming a 5% HR34 penetration rate (which may be somewhat low) of the 20,000,000 or so domestic DIRECTV subscribers, and a 5% NR-issue-affected rate (which I also suspect is somewhat low), that equates to almost 50,000 affected subscribers. Even given those admittedly wild assumptions, I would suggest that "very few" is most definitely in the eye of the nay-sayer.
     
  2. Aug 10, 2012 #82 of 131
    sigma1914

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    Take the discussion to the CE forum... Should be easy to prove.
     
  3. Aug 10, 2012 #83 of 131
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    Get real. Quit quoting numbers that you have no idea are correct.
     
  4. Aug 10, 2012 #84 of 131
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    Other than you, I didn't "quote" anything, and you're the one who used the term "very few." The very small fractions I used in my calculations seem quote reasonable to me, but if they're not to you, feel free to provide your own substantiation as to what equates to the "very few" who have been affected by this NR issue, so you can "get real." :rolleyes:
     
  5. Aug 11, 2012 #85 of 131
    jagrim

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    50,000 affected- Do you really believe that? ??

    I believe this thread has run its course,
     
  6. Aug 11, 2012 #86 of 131
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    No, I actually believe it's somewhat more than that, but given that the NR has just recently gone wild, the DIRECTV phones have just begun to ring. But, again, feel free to prove me wrong.

    In any event, whatever the actual numbers (and I still believe mine are low), this issue is quite big enough that DIRECTV will likely be fixing it rather quickly. You seem to be hoping otherwise.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2012 #87 of 131
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    Actually it's really all about Hollywood and their paranoia. DIRECTV could make it work and leave it alone if they didn't have to worry about hdcp and all that jazz. By being forced to tweak their hdmi compliance to make sure it works right, they run into issues, because some tvs may not be perfect to teh latest hdcp compliant junk. Then the question is, is the issue because it's not outputting to spec, or because what it's seeing front he tv isn't what is to spec for hdcp and so on. So many freaking variables.

    And Hollywood wants all component outputs limited to nothing but 480 on blu ray players by the end of the year (it's coming, so unplug your blu rays form the net if your using component now so that you don't get any software updates) and if they had their way, on all devices as well. I am sure someday that will happen.
     
  8. Aug 11, 2012 #88 of 131
    gio12

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    Its back gain. But if I leave the TV on and just turn the DVR on and off, it now will sync back. This I can handle for a bit.
     
  9. Aug 11, 2012 #89 of 131
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    this sound stupid but it a long story before i even known about this problem i brought a new TV, it's should be here in 2 weeks, let's see if help, i know it's a long shot
     
  10. Aug 11, 2012 #90 of 131
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    As this issue affects what appears to be only a small percentage of certain HR34/TV combinations, your likelihood of experiencing it on a different brand/model TV is probably rather small. Good luck.
     
  11. Aug 11, 2012 #91 of 131
    gio12

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    How do you know? I would not use this forum as a gage. Unless you are a csr with D* you have zero clue.
     
  12. Aug 11, 2012 #92 of 131
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    Same thing happening to me. It only happens when I turn on the tv and HR34. It goes away when I change the channel. Comes back again when I power off/on.
     
  13. Aug 12, 2012 #93 of 131
    jagrim

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    I needed a good joke this morning.?. ?
     
  14. Aug 12, 2012 #94 of 131
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    What I do know is this does not affect 50,000 subscribers. That number was pulled out of the air and is "quite absurd" (remembering that we are a family friendly forum, I can't say what I really think).

    I wish the affected op all the luck in getting his issue fixed.
     
  15. Aug 12, 2012 #95 of 131
    Mike Bertelson

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    It doesn't make much sense to say everyone with an HR34 is affected. I don't have this issue on my HR34. Other than a very rare pink flash as my TV first turns on I don't have this problem.

    IOW, just because someone has an HR34 doesn't mean they have this issue so you can't really say how many are affected.

    Why do some have this problem and some don't? I don't have a clue. :shrug:

    Mike
     
  16. Aug 12, 2012 #96 of 131
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    FWIW, I've had an HR34 for 6 months. Its connected to a Sony TV via HDMI and have never experienced the pink issue. Likely to be an interesting challenge for Direct engs.
     
  17. Aug 12, 2012 #97 of 131
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    I've never experienced that pink screen on my HR34. I'm on the 0x057C release and I have a Panasonic Plasma and a Samsung LCD connected to it. I'm using 3 HDMI cables that are 24AWG and a powered splitter to handle this set up. Knock on wood, but I've never had that pink screen appear on either flat screen.
     
  18. Aug 12, 2012 #98 of 131
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    I don't see where anyone said that "everyone with an HR34 is affected."

    In fact, what I said was that assuming only a 5% HR34 penetration rate, and if only 5% of those HR34s were affected, that number would equate to 50,000 affected HR34/TV installations, which is one quarter of one percent (.25%) of the overall installed base. Is that figure too high? Okay, let's halve it to only one eighth of one percent (.125%) and that still equates to 25,000 affected units. Or, again, halve that to one sixteenth of one percent (.0625%), which, to me, is a ridiculously low percentage, and that's still 12,500 affected units.

    The bottom line is that when you are dealing with such a large subscriber base, even tiny percentages equate to relatively large numbers.

    Oh, and if you are seeing a "pink screen" at any time, you are, indeed, affected, just not to the degree that others seem to be. Lucky you.
     
  19. Aug 12, 2012 #99 of 131
    lacubs

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    let me ask this, to bring up another problem for anyone have the pink problem does your HBO have the HDCP problem? but just shutting off the receiver the HDCP problem goes away
     
  20. inkahauts

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    There is a part of your numbers that is missing. This appears to be related to the tvs they are connected to, so you have to add this in as well. So if only a small % of the people with hr34s have the specific tvs connected via hdmi as well, you could easily see this affecting only a few hundred people to a couple thousand of people, if that many. I also think your assuming a lot more HR34 are out there in the first place than are actually in people's homes, but who knows. Either way,I'd bet the tv is a major limiting factor to how many people are seeing this issue.

    A for your second part, many different things can cause different issues that appear very similar. So if you are seeing a pink screen on a restart, that's not neccessarily caused by the same thing that is causing this paticular issue for people when their units come up to live tv and they have a pink screen. In fact it's likely a different issue, although in the same family, otherwise again, more people would be affected.
     

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