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What happens if I put a 1TB SSD in my HR44-700?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rich, Aug 14, 2018.

  1. Aug 14, 2018 #1 of 181
    Rich

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    We all seem to be suffering with slowness on our HRs. I know putting a brand new HDD in just about any HR will bring it back to quick and peppy, performance-wise. I can only assume that sticking a Samsung 1TB SSD (it is a SATA drive) in my 44 will speed it up substantially but will that performance stay that way or will I see the same happen that I've seen so many times when I replace an HDD in any of my HRs. My 44 is getting annoying just as the rest of my HRs have. Nothing helps and sticking new HDDs in is expensive and just a quick, short fix.

    Here's a link to an SSD that I think will work: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch...pID=41qR7C253KL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

    What I don't know is will a SATA III drive work in a 44 or a 24? From what I read this morning on one of my news feeds the connections are the same. As you can see the price is less than ~ $200 and I will give it a try if I can get some help on this. Might be a decent way to fix the slowness...or not.

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    MysteryMan

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    Rich, I've had my HR54-200 for three years. It has it's original hard drive that's 72% free and tons of software installed yet I can honestly say it's roughly 98% as fast as it was the day I got it.
     
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    WestDC

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    I agree with M- Man I see no slowest
     
  4. Aug 14, 2018 #4 of 181
    Rich

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    Don't have any idea how long I've had the 44 but it is as slow as a 24 in some regards. It has a 3TB drive in it that I installed the day I got it. It used to be very responsive to remote commands but they take so long these days. I've emptied the HDD, I've done everything I can think of and nothing speeds it up. I'd be happy as all get-out if someone could tell me how to get it back to what it was. I'm pretty sure sticking a brand new HDD in it would do the trick and then I'd be back to complaining about it in a few weeks. Only other thing I can think of is an SSD. I'm willing to give it a shot if someone can tell me if SATA III SSDs will work.

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  5. Aug 14, 2018 #5 of 181
    Rich

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    Both of you are comparing your 54s to my 44. Is the 54 a better DVR?

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    MysteryMan

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    My HR44-200 was a rock solid performer. Never bogged down, very reliable. I put it in the same category as my HR54-200 as far as performance. Now my HR34-700, that's a different story. That unit should never have left the drawing board. As for the HS17, it's pretty reliable but I don't care for it's client only format. That's why I use my HR54-200.
     
  7. Aug 14, 2018 #7 of 181
    Delroy E Walleye

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    If you still have a working dock, maybe try the SSD in that first before going through all the labor of putting it inside.

    (Frankly, I'd be more interested whether the performance of the HR2x would be improved by a SSD.)

    Hopefully you might have another use for the drive if there's no significant performance improvement.

    At any rate, I'm certainly not going to be the one to discourage you from being the "first one on the block" to try it in a 44. (So far, I've only seen posts by someone using one in a TiVo.)
     
  8. Aug 14, 2018 #8 of 181
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    Sadly rich, I’ll bet it’s your drive. You have that kind of luck.. i think higher spin drives and larger caches do make a difference in these dvrs... I have a 4tb red drive in my 44 and it’s anywhere from 20% to 0% free and it’s been the same speed since day one.

    I’d be curios about your experience with a SSD drive in yours. I have pondered doing that to mine as well, just for the heck of it...l
     
  9. Aug 15, 2018 #9 of 181
    NR4P

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    I have a 2TB purple old fashioned spinning HDD in my HR44. Its very fast. I have noticed over the years that if I have any IP conflicts or issues on my home network, the HR44 suffers. If it is really slow, such as it takes many seconds to bring up the Guide or List, I would look at that.

    Easy way to check for IP issues is disconnect it from home network. Reboot and see it works
     
  10. Aug 15, 2018 #10 of 181
    slice1900

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    SATA is backwards compatible, so if the Genie uses SATA drives your SATA III SSD will work. Worth a shot to see if it helps.

    Question though - if you say your Genie used to be faster, I assume you've tried removing and wiping the drive (I'd use a real drive wipe program, not just a 'format') If that didn't help, it must be the software that's slowed it down, it would be interesting to see how much it would benefit from an SSD.
     
  11. Aug 15, 2018 #11 of 181
    jimmie57

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    I used to buy all my memory chips from Crucial Technology.
    I went to their site and watched some videos. None talked about using SSD in a DVR.
    Then I went to their Forum and found a thread on using an SSD in / attached to a DirecTV DVR.
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    Using an SSD and eSATA for DVR expansion drive? - Crucial Community
     
  12. Aug 15, 2018 #12 of 181
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    I use three HRs, two 24s and the 44. If the SSD does work better in the 44 I'd put SSDs in the 24s too. Not big ones, I don't need capacity anymore.

    I gave this a lot of thought last night and considered putting a dock on the 44 but I really want to see what happens with an SSD internally. I can usually put an HDD in a box in less than half an hour. Might take a bit more time, I know the SSD won't fit into the sled but I'll mount it somehow.

    I just opened this thread and haven't had time to go thru it but I'm hoping someone will tell me a SATA III drive will work with the 44.

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    It appears that you are going to have to try it and tell US

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    Glad you jumped in here. I can't think of anything else that could cause what I'm seeing.

    I don't remember what model the 3TB drive I have in the 44 is...let me see if I can find it...3TB Caviar Green. Not a drive with high spin rates and a large cache I would think. I used to use Seagate Barracudas, they spun at 7200, the Green drives are at 5400 IIRC.

    Did you check out the specs on the SSD I linked to? I have to know if a SATA III SSD will work in the 44. I don't see why it wouldn't but we didn't see why the WD MY BOOK eSATA devices wouldn't work with the 24s and I never got one to work.

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    inkahauts

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    I think they red drive I have in mine is a sata iii so I don’t see that being an issue...
     
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    Rich

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    I'm sitting here trying to remember how to disconnect an HR from MRV. I don't think I've ever done that. I'll figure it out and give it a try...I think I did it, it's rebooting now.

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  17. Aug 15, 2018 #17 of 181
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    Thanx, that's what I was looking for. No, I haven't wiped the HDD clean, just dumped most of the content. Didn't see any reason to try to keep that HDD, it's as old as the 44 and will probably go south one of these days.

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    Thanx. That settles it. Just ordered it. Should have it tomorrow.

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    Well, that didn't work. Before I go nuts, how do I disconnect it from the network...I just can't figure out how to do it on the 44, somebody help me...

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  20. Aug 15, 2018 #20 of 181
    inkahauts

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    You’d need a band stop filter to connect in-line on the coax so the DVRs didn’t see each other. And then keep the DVR off your home network as well. Just totally isolate it to see if that might be some of the issue.

    https://www.amazon.com/DECA-BSFR0-01-Band-Filter-DirecTv/dp/B005051UWC
     

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