What happens if I put a 1TB SSD in my HR44-700?

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  1. Rich

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    If you mean does the USB external device have a jumper cable between the USB port and the HR, yes. I don't see how else that could work. Or did you mean something else?

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    When you see that juddering on a recording can you click back and see if it replicates in the same place? If it does that points to the broadcast being the culprit.

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  3. GordonGekko

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    I mean if we find out that some of the HR54's can accept usb 3 devices, can we use this:

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-eas...able-hard-drive-black/5792405.p?skuId=5792405

    If we can, then there is one other way we could change the drive without having to plug in an additional device, the other way being opening up the HR54 and replacing the existing drive.

    By plug, I mean into an electrical socket.
     
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    That might work, might not. When we began figuring out how the eSATA function worked we tried the WD MyBook enclosures. Came with an HDD inside as the one in your link does. Would not work. And it was a SATA device. But the one in your link would probably work. You'd still have to plug it into a power source tho, I think. I don't know of any way to get around that.

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  5. b4pjoe

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    There are external USB devices that get their power from the USB port. Not sure if the USB port on a D* device has the power to run a hard drive though.
     
  6. GordonGekko

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    Yes, for example you can do this with the drive in the link above and a nvidia shield, no extra outlet needed, hopefully someone will test this out soon.
     
  7. dminches

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    Good question. I will check that.

    Last night on I was watching the SAG awards on TNT. There were multiple instances of picture break up but it was not the same stuttering that I get at times.
     
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    In my post I said "You'd still have to plug it into a power source tho." I'm thinking there's no way around that.

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  9. Rich

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    I never worry about problems I can replicate, that always seems to be a broadcast issue.

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    Okay Rich, my Sammy 500G SS drive arrived yesterday from Amazon, tossed against the garage door in the snow. I let it thaw for 4 hours before tossing into my HR24 I just activated. So far, so good. I removed the HD and bracket from my -200, connected the SS drive sitting on the piece of foam, and everything working great so far.

    I can't believe how small it is.....smaller than my regular wallet, and doesn't weigh anything. I'll report back in a week or so, while suffering through this polar vortex we're getting tomorrow. :)
     
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    Well they are "solid state" so they won't be damaged by careless delivery people. I think they are rated to handle 1000 Gs, and that's probably because they didn't test any higher than that.
     
  12. Rich

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    I knew little about SSDs other than they existed. I was put off by the size too. I put one in a 200 too and just let it float on the stiff cables connected to it. Then the HR failed and I put it in a dock on the refurb. I always had problems with docks and HDDs. The docks work a lot better with the SSDs than they do with HDDs. But, yeah, how do they pack all that in such small package?

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  13. Rich

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    Cold weather?

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    Rich I used the retention number in your sig, and it was att cell phone retention not DT, I had to be put on hold , then be transferred to DT and put on hold again, so I guess I will still try the old DT numbers, thanks anyway for the info.
     
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    Shouldn't be a problem, at least not for normal cold weather. Most electronics are tested only down to 0C, or in some cases -20C (-4F) but that doesn't mean an SSD won't work at colder temperatures.

    Still, letting it sit for a few hours to acclimatize to the temperatures in your house is never a bad idea unless you are in some kinda crazy hurry to get it installed and running right away.
     
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    Don't know what happened when you called. I just called that number and the first thing the guy said was, "This is the Loyalty Department". He told me that number was gonna change in the near future but it's viable now. Hey, maybe ATT has the phones as screwed up as D* is. I dunno what's going on in ATT land...

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    I remember cautions about cold HDDs but SSDs? Nothing moving in them is there?

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    There's not anything moving in them and like I said being cold shouldn't be a problem for them. However thermal expansion/contraction still occurs and at different rates in different materials so personally I would err on the side of caution if I had a box with an SSD sitting outside in -20C weather and let it warm up a bit before using it - which would cause the chips to quickly warm up to probably +50C or higher.

    I would bet against problems but unless you are in a hurry what can it hurt to let it sit around for a couple hours to reach ambient temperature in your house first?
     
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    I have concluded that any of my video jitter issues are from the broadcast themselves and not the machine. MSG's broadcasts are ripe with breakups.

    I can't say that I see a huge speed difference between using the SSD and mechanical HD but I certainly don't see any downsides at this point.
     
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    When I decided to try the SSDs it was because the 44 and 24 were so slow and buggy it was annoying. What I saw with the SSDs was speed and stability. Compared to the slow and buggy 44 and 24. Might not have seen any speed difference if I was comparing them to an HR with a relatively new HDD on it. Then I got a refurbed 24-500 that was slow and buggy. SSD on that it works a lot better.

    I got the 44 from someone on this site about 3 years ago. I booted it up and made sure it worked and then stuck a 3TB Green Caviar in it. Always had problems with it, it rebooted randomly and shut off randomly for some time. Then an NR came down that fixed those issues. Chalked that up to software. Thought the NRs were the cause of all my problems. After all that the 44 was just a PITA to use. Now it's not and the SSDs changed my mind.

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