What happens if I put a 1TB SSD in my HR44-700?

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  1. Rich

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    Yup, you have a refurbed 54. That means they just wiped out all the content on the internal drive and reformatted it. I've never seen anything that would lead me to believe they ever replace the internal HDDs with new HDDs. What you are seeing is normal, you need a new drive.

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    I would really like to see you or somebody try that USB-3 port. Of course you'd have to have an external device that supports USB-3. Wonder if they even exist...isn't "USB-3" USB C? Not sure we are using the correct term. Anyhow, found this on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Enclo...ateway&sprefix=usb+c+external+,aps,139&sr=8-6

    This would seem to be the answer. Wish I had a 54 without the eSATA port. Interesting.

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  3. b4pjoe

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    USB C has the round plug.

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    Your link is USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type C. Plugs into a regular USB 3 port (the end with the blue in it) to the hard drive that has the USB C port

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    You can also get a USB 3 hard drive with this port.

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  4. Delroy E Walleye

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    I've got one of those Thermaltake USB-only docks. It definitely handles USB 3 speeds when connected to a "modern-era" computer.

    I've never tried connecting any USB device to a DirecTV H/HR unit, though.

    Would be nice if someone were to "guinea pig" a new HR with a USB 3 on it...(I don't have one).

    I had ordered another SSD with a different enclosure that has eSATA and USB3 for use with the HR44's eSATA port.

    Sadly, the firmware for the HR44 was crappy to the point about a year ago I stopped using it altogether, so those items are still waiting around for me to connect them to something.

    I've tested the enclosure on a PC and it's really cool. (I think it's linked somewhere in this thread.)

    For what it's worth, the 500 gig SSD I connected to an old HR21 with a Thermaltake dock is still cooking along nicely since December, with only a few "weird experiences" along the way.
     
  5. nowandthen

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    To be more specific, skip to tick is what's really slow, everything else seems to be pretty responsive,but from all I have read, it's only a matter of time before things get worse.
     
  7. Rich

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    I have some USB C devices, I was wondering about the proper term. Guess it's USB C.

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  8. Rich

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    What's wrong with your 44? Mine seems to be working splendidly.

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    Yup, once they start slowing down it just gets worse. Fixing that is easy.

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  10. Delroy E Walleye

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    Very little use for it with all its firmware flaws.

    To the best of my knowledge 1037 only had the "all channels" bug (which wasn't a problem for me). Nothing else was wrong with it.

    Don't know if that bug was ever fixed, but subsequent versions 1088 and 1106 (IIRC) added playlist navigation issues, missing recordings problems and broke the CC.

    Like I said, little (I'd add maybe even NO) use for it.

    I glad for you if you don't have any of those issues.

    For me I absolutely must have a properly navigable playlist and the CC has to work.

    Useless to me otherwise.
     
  11. Rich

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    I get all that. The new GUI annoys me too. Damn shame to do that to what I think is a great DVR. Yesterday I went to the 44 to watch the Yankee game and the Playlist on the 44 only had one game on it. For a change it was a game the 44 had recorded but I was puzzled because my 24s have gotten into the habit of recording the games of the Yankees and Mets. No Mets game and only one Yankees game. Couple hours later I went to another room with a 24 and found several more games on that Playlist. Obviously, the missing program thing is getting bad again. I've never been a big fan of the Genies. Still don't see my 44 as an "upgrade".

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  12. Delroy E Walleye

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    Agree it was a pretty decent DVR

    I thought they had that new UI about as good as it was ever gonna get with 1037.

    Probably too many people complained about the text size or something, so they went and royally screwed-up the entire UI introducing all the new "bugs" including broken CC and losing your place in the playlist, etc...

    There wasn't anything wrong with the text size. I could read it perfectly well on a 30" CRT from 12ft away through the analog inputs!

    I was even eventually ok with the progress bar too. If your screen is good enough you can see through the shroud just fine. It goes away after 1 and a half seconds anyway...

    I also appreciated channel logos in the guide, more lines etc...

    I could type pages, but this is the SSD thread.

    Getting back to that, the old 21 is getting reliably wonky every eight to 10 days. Can't say for certain it's the SSD, but I don't really care. Runs better and boots faster, so I'll probably keep resetting it and use the SSD 'till it quits.

    One time it came back with a storage error, so I unplugged everything, re-seated the drive and cables in the dock and all was well again. Settings and recordings still there.

    There's still an old internal 1.5 from 2009 in it. At some point I'll probably run it and see if the HR still gets wonky.

    After I quit using the 44, there was time to watch-down two larger external drives on the 21 then stick the SSD into its dock.

    Haven't really looked back (or even at that 44) 'till lately. It's still got 1037 in it and I can watch all the recordings, while navigating the playlist properly, CC and subtitles working as they should.

    I'd probably have to go back to using it if the 21 finally craps out.
     
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    I think the 44s are more than a decent DVR. I think my 44 is absolutely the best DVR I've ever had. But I get the frustration. D* screwed up a fine DVR. That GUI is...ever notice I rarely swear here? I can't bring myself to write what I really think of that thing. I'd have to drop F bombs all over the place.

    Putting an SSD in a 24 isn't gonna fix everything. I have a 24-200 with a 500 GB SSD on it and the damn thing keeps skipping to the end of a recording randomly. Not a big deal if you're not dealing with sports but it's a huge deal if it skips to the end of a game and shows the score. Pretty sure this is a firmware problem, not gonna blame the SSD.

    How long have you had that 21? I'd be looking at replacing that with a 24. Stick that SSD on a 24 and it will fly.

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  14. Delroy E Walleye

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    Yup, the only thing wrong with the 44s is the UI. I've simply no use for it (above 1037).

    (I was even able to get past one of your frustrations - progress bar popping up on 30SKIP - by enjoying watching it move as the skips accumulated when stacking them.)

    Otherwise a fine DVR than the broken pieces of the new UI.

    The 21's been around since Q3 2007. Most reliable (other than the 20/700 same vintage) I've ever used, just slow. Other than that it still does almost everything it's supposed to without fail.

    (The 20 with its original HDD in it still runs circles around it!)

    SSD only made the 21 usable again.

    I had considered getting 24s for a while until folks around here started reporting slowdowns and other problems, making them sound more like (or even worse than) a 21.

    It wasn't until your more recent idea of SSDs I would even consider it.

    Nowadays I'm thinking as long as the 20/21s ain't broke, I want nothing to do with hassling with T to try and replace them with 24s.

    I would have to consider paying up and working through Solid Signal and I'm not quite there, yet. (Not even sure they can work with T accounts, yet.)
     
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    I doubt D* would give you a hard time about replacing the 21. I'm surprised the 21 is still working. Tell them the lights on the front don't come on and it looks dead. Nothing helps. You'll get a 24 and it might be slow. Stick that SSD on it and you'll see what a brand new 24 must have worked like. I doubt Solid Signal puts new HDDs in the 24s they sell. Not sure. That's the problem, all the 24s with original HDDs in them are gonna be slow. I see nothing else wrong with them.

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    The eSATA to SATA cable I got won't plug into my HR-24. I even took the 24 out of the cabinet and tried :mad:
     
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    There is a "top" and "bottom" to the connectors on those cables. If you can't get it into the SATA port turn the connector over and it should plug right in. Same thing with the eSATA port on the external device.

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  18. 242424

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    Thanks but I turned it both ways multiple times.
     
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    Can you post a photo of the ends of the cable?
     
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    I'd like to see a photo of that cable too. Does that cable seem stiffer than most cables?

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