What happens if I put a 1TB SSD in my HR44-700?

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  1. Rich

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    Wouldn't you think they'd replace the box? Sticking an SSD on any HR isn't gonna cure everything. I'd certainly try an SSD, just on the chance it might solve the problem. But it is a different country and I have no idea what happens there.

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  2. Feb 2, 2020 #482 of 657
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    I once had three different DVR boxes from SKY Brasil at the same time (all Directv equivalent models) and many more over the years (replacements) and all have those slowness feeling. Using a DVR compared to a regular box is like driving a car with hand brakes on. I guess it is worth a try. Another hint that HD might be a problem is that whener i delet a lot of programs and free up more space, the box gets a little faster.

    Theres not a whole lot of option on SSD brands here in Brazil. Does anyone know if the Kingdston A400 500gb works just fine?

    Also, how do you conect to the esata port? All HDD cases i found have only an USB output. Do you need an external power source?

    Thnks
     
  3. Feb 2, 2020 #483 of 657
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    You just need to find an external enclosure or dock that has the esata port. Here in the US Amazon has them but no idea about getting them in Brazil. You do need one with a power source.
     
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    Rich

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    Yup, that SSD looks like it will work. This is a link to the latest enclosure I've bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WC1QQVC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    That will work with the SSD you spoke of. You can think of that as a dock or enclosure.

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    Rich

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    The enclosure/dock I linked to will come with an eSATA to SATA cable. You plug one end into the eSATA port on the back of the enclosure and the other end goes into the SATA port on the back wall of the DVR. Yes, you definitely need a power source which every dock and enclosure I've had or seen comes with. Using the eSATA function is easy. Once you have everything in place make sure the power plug of the DVR is removed and the enclosure/dock has no power. Insert the SSD and power up the enclosure/dock. Takes less than a minute. Then plug in the DVR. The DVR will format the SSD and when the DVR is done booting up you should be good to go. Try to remember to record a show you would never record on the internal HDD. That way you'll know which drive the DVR is recognizing. What you should see with a new SSD is a blank Playlist, you should not see the recording you would never normally record.

    BTW, any dock or enclosure with an eSATA port should work. The eSATA function has nothing to do with USB.

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    Hey Rich & Co.,

    Reading thru these threads after a pretty long hiatus from here. Have been fat/happy with a few HR-24’s in the house for some time now.

    The primary unit has had a 3TB WD HDD running for at least 6-7 years now, from recollection…possibly longer.

    We just upgraded to 4k sets and got an HS-17 that has an e-SATA port thankfully. Our installer said it didn’t have e-SATA, so glad I went to the basement and double checked!

    I slapped in my current 3TB HDD which was recognized on 2nd attempt. Of course, lost use of all prior recordings and had to delete them, but the nice benefit was all my series were still setup for recording and that seems to be working fine.

    After reading through this thread, I’m seeing that the life on this HDD may be near its end. It’s been pushed…sitting at ~25% - 30% capacity for most of its life…I tried to delete older stuff as it pushed through 30% level.

    Anyway, I see you’re having much success w/ SSD thru e-SATA but my family still dictates the need for size over speed. So thinking a 3 – 6TB HDD should work for us. I read one member hear had issues w/ Seagate’s IronWolf. Anyone else use with success? Another was pointing out that WD Purple’s may be fairly optimized for DVR usage. Just trying to see what latest thoughts are on best solution…noise not an issue as the HS-17 is located in the basement (unfinished area).
     
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    Rich

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    That's the problem anyone with a 17 is gonna run into. SSDs with the capacity you want are very expensive. And that HDD is surely on it's way out. For an HDD you might want to try a WD Surveillance HDD. They seem to be made with DVRs in mind. Here's a link to one: https://www.amazon.com/Purple-6TB-Surveillance-Hard-Drive/dp/B071V6SVK2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=201DHV62SVN4U&keywords=wd+surveillance+drive+6tb&qid=1580848066&sprefix=wd+sur,aps,171&sr=8-3

    That should give you a few years of good performance. Just keep it no more than half full. Once you start loading up HDDs the performance suffers. IOW, treat a 6TB as if it were a 3TB drive, keep it no more than half full. 3TBs of content is a hell of a lot of content.

    Rich
     
  8. WestDC

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    Hey Rich: I put one of these on one of HR-22's
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W954RZK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    one TB Drive and had it up and running in less than 5 mins -- so far it works great -I have to wait for the 24 hr guide to update so I get set some series --But so far I like it --Faster Boot time and remote menu action -Thanks for posting
     
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    Not a bad deal on that enclosure/SSD. About what I paid for my last enclosure and 1TB SSD. Glad it worked for you. Just about everything should be faster with the SSD.

    Rich
     
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    I'll see how long it lasts
     
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    I've got a 500GB running on an HR21 for 14 months now, and mostly on the under 30% free space available portion being used over and over (one full series haven't gotten around to watching).

    No real problems, yet (knock on wood).

    The only thing I've had to do differently than the regular HDD units is requires resetting* the DVR every 8 to 10 days (as opposed to 6 to 8 weeks).

    But the SSD boots quickly enough, even when mostly full. The increased "performance" is totally worth it.

    *Resetting (as opposed to simply restarting) is two restarts within a half-hour, flushing the guide. Seems to help keep "performance" as top-notch as it can be.
     
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    Doesn't look like an SSD, 7200 RPMs looks like a hard drive
     
  13. Rich

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    I've had the SSD on my 44 since August of 2018 and it's still running as it did when I installed it. Pretty sure we'll get at least two years out of these things.

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    Does that enclosure contain an HDD or an SSD?

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    It does look like an HDD. Just checked with the author of that post...

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    The Link I posted -Was for information - I ordered the 1TB SSD Version if you look at the boxes - You can Pick Which ever you wish.

    Sorry I upset the Post Police
     
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    I did look at the offering, that's why I asked. The link you supplied shows the 1TB version and the 1TB SSD version is not highlighted. Not a problem, just caused confusion, I was sure you had an SSD in that enclosure. In that thread...

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    UPDATE:

    Well Sunday 9pm -The SSD Died-NO light no-nothing --I returned it and ordered a ThermalX -WD-Green-SSD & 3' estata cord - I got it today --Connected it and Off it went -Working as of NOW - I have to wait for the Guide to update to add series and such.

    I do not Know What Kind of Internal SSD was in that unit or the Case it was in --BUT I would not buy another one- So FYI
     
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    Good info! Folks should be aware that there are problems with this enclosure: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...tle_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=viglink20586-20

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  20. sstv

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    Hi All
    I just installed a "TANGO" external enclosure and a WD sata ssd. The enclosure cost 9 bucks at Amazon and is well made and very easy to set up. It uses the usb port for power which is provided by a 120v usb adaptor that came from a flat tv ant amp power that I had laying around. A cable is provided for usb opration. Everything is provided all you have to do is plug into the esata ports, hook up the power, turn on the directv recvr. all else is automatic. You have to setup the recvr, which is a pain so write down all the info from the recvr so it is less painfull.
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