What happens if I put a 1TB SSD in my HR44-700?

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  1. WestDC

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    You only have to do that when you first set up a eSTATA External Drive --Once that is done it will always reboot from the eSTATA Drive --no matter if you lose AC power or just do a red button reset.

    If you ever wish to return to the internal drive --Remove AC power from the receiver (after shutdown) uplug the estata cord and then power the receiver back up. The receiver will boot from the internal drive
     
  2. 242424

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    Someone needs to tell my SSD/receiver that. lol Like I said above, I've rebooted it twice and it booted to the internal drive instead of the SSD both times.
     
  3. WestDC

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    1. Using your remote --Menu -Settings --Restart receiver (when the receiver front of the receiver goes dark) unplug it from AC power ---Then Connect your estata Drive & power it up (WAIT) for at least 1 minute for the drive to fully come up.
    Then Plug your receiver AC cord in and turn it on --It should then see the eSTATA drive
     
  4. b4pjoe

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    I've never had it revert back to using the internal drive once it recognizes and boots from the SSD once. If I unplug it...when I plug it back in it still boots from the external.
     
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    Again I had no problem getting it to recognize the SSD but I rebooted it and it went back to the internal HD. Twice.
     
  6. P Smith

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    FYI: DVR is NOT booting from HDD or SSD; it using the drives as a storage
     
  7. b4pjoe

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    Whatever man....it needs to see the proper hard drive when it starts up and once mine recognizes the external hard drive it no longer tries to boot up and use the internal hard drive.
     
  8. WestDC

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    When it booted to the SSD --Did you take time to record anything? and set up a series? try that and then reboot
     
  9. carl6

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    The key is of course, that the external drive be powered on and available at the time the DVR is powered on. Normally, neither should ever have power removed (when you turn an HR24 "off" all you are doing is putting it in standby). If the external drive (and/or DVR) is actually turned off (power removed), then the proper startup sequence needs to happen - external drive powered and ready, then DVR started. When you "turn on" an HR24, all you are doing it taking it out of standby, which mostly involves enabling the video output. All of its other functions remain active, so it can do scheduled recordings, etc. For all of that to happen, the external drive needs to remain fully on at all times.
     
  10. Rich

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    That should not happen. When you lose power, and the power comes back on, the HR will reboot and the SSD should be the primary drive. What kind of external device are you using? That might be the problem.

    Rich
     
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  11. 242424

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    No I didn't, I'll give that a shot. Thanks

    It's a Thermaltake BlackX Rich
     
  12. codespy

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    That’s weird. I have over 10 of the TT BlackX’s connected to my DVR’s and they always reboot on the external if there’s a power outage. Maybe just unplug the power plug on the internal HDD to eliminate your issue.
     
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  13. 242424

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    Update: lol
    Couldn't get it to boot again to the external SSD and one time it came up with a blue screen saying something like 'something is wrong with storage device and it may be as simple as restarting the receiver".

    That tells me that either the SSD, dock, cable or port on the receiver is bad. I'm sending the SSD back and calling an end to this experiment. While it was working the speed was nice but it still had audio dropouts and that was one of the reasons I installed it. Thanks for the help guys.
     
  14. Rich

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    I had a feeling that was what you were using. I have had that happen with a couple of TT docks. I got rid of all my TT docks, and I use these external devices for SSDs: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WC1QQVC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    No problems yet with these devices. I always had problems getting HDDs recognized when I was using HDDs externally with TT docks. All my docks were old and had been used for years.

    Rich
     
  15. Rich

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    I doubt the SSD is the problem.

    Rich
     
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    I had similar problems, the docks I had were old and the small form devices I use now are trouble-free so far.

    Rich
     
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    this thread is very interesting indeed. I've experimented with several drives, both ssd & hdd. I have replaced the 5400 wd green drive in my owned hr54 with a samsung 860 evo 1tb. it runs fantastic. menu commands are nearly instant. scrolling the guide is smooth as silk. I was worried about ssd failure but with this evo, if my genie writes at 400gb every single day it would still take roughly 4 years to reach the stated tbw of the evo ssd. i dont see my genie writing that much per day. I could be wrong & I often am, but I don't think it will write that much. I have 7 shows I season pass & some are ending. the rest is live buffering.

    I've tried a 2tb 7200 rpm seagate and that thing is noisy and HOT. I had to remove it.
    next I experimented with a wb blue 2tb ssd. the genie would format the drive but that's as far as it got. it did not like that particular ssd.
    the samsung 860 qvo also works good. it has a higher tbw endurance than the evo but its 2tb and I use it on my pc for oculus rift vr.
    the wd blue 2tb 5400 hdd with 256mb cache works excellent. speed is quick and for a 5400 im impressed. I would definitely use it over a 7200rpm hdd.

    for now I'm gonna leave my 1tb evo installed and see how it behaves over the next month. then I'm gonna read the smart data and see just how much data is written to the drive to get a better estimate of its lifespan.

    ssd's have come a long way over the last year or 2. their endurance is pretty impressive. I use ssd's in everything. my boot drive is a 860 pro nvme. its been flawless for about 2yrs now.
     
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  18. P Smith

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    please post your finding here after your regular SMART checkups
     
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  19. Rich

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    I gave up on Seagate HDDs years ago. They made too much noise. But, if you have a place where noise doesn't matter they would be a better choice than the slower WD drives. I have a WD Blue SSD and it works as well as the rest of them.

    Rich
     
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  20. JcT21

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    my wd blue ssd worked great in a hr54-500 by humax but this 54-700 by pace wont have anything to do with it.

    i did a 32gb speed test between the wd 2tb blue 5400 w 256mb cache, wd 1tb blue 7200 w 64mb cache & the hot 'n noisy seagate 2tb 7200 w 64mb cache. the wd 5400 beat them both. perhaps its the 256mb cache which makes a difference. the other drives scored 190's in the r/w test and the 5400 was 209/203 in the same test. i used crystal disk mark.
     
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