What happens if I put a 1TB SSD in my HR44-700?

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  1. Rich

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    One month has passed since I put the SSD in the 44. Nothing bad has happened. Both the 44 and 24 are running well. Have not seen one audio problem that I could blame the SSDs for, same thing applies to video problems.

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    I am going to fill up the 24-200's SSD starting today. We want to see what happens. I know what a full HDD does to a 24, slows it down quite a bit along with some other surprises.

    David Ortiz suggested leaving both HRs with the SSDs on a channel that has no buffer. After giving that suggestion a lot of thought I decided to treat the SSDs as I would HDDs. If the SSDs fail, they fail. I do appreciate the suggestion.

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  3. David Ortiz

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    You could use my suggestion on one of them and see if if makes a difference.
     
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    I did try what you suggested. Kept forgetting to change the channel before shutting down the HRs for the night. Let me fill up the 24 and see what happens. After I finish that I'll try this again. Be nice if there was a way to get the HR to default to a particular channel when turned off...

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    The HR24-200 with the 500GB SSD mounted internally now has a full Playlist. I used it last night to watch the last few innings of the Yankees' game. No changes so far. It seems to be working as it did when the SSD was nearly empty. I'll let it run on full for a week and see what happens. So far, so good.

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    I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread, but SSD's have a finite number of read and write cycles. Their life expectancy is designed for PC use, not as long term storage for servers or devices like DVRs. where there is a constant stream of activity. They may be good for short term use, but expect to have issues that require replacement once the cycle limits are approached.

    OOPs, Sorry for the redundant info. I went back and saw that there were a few posts that address this issue.
     
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    "Short term" seems to be long enough to cover the life of the DVR.
     
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    Yup, we looked at the read/write cycles and it seems like we can expect a few years of service from the SSDs. But who knows? I do know this: Don't expect to get "good" performance from HDDs for as long as the HDDs last. What you end up with after a couple years is an HDD that works but has many problems, problems that we've been blaming on things other than the HDDs. Seems to me I should have been swapping out HDDs every couple years, not letting them run until I started getting storage errors. That's a mistake we all are making.

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    I'd be surprised if they lasted that long. We'll see.

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    Two months in and no problems. I have filled the 24-200 to full and had no problems. What I see are two HRs that seem to run perfectly. I always have raved about the way the Apple TV streaming boxes work and now I have two HRs that are doing the same thing the ATVs do...just work well. But, I'm not doing much recording and what I do record is deleted immediately upon completion. I have no idea what would happen long term if I were to load up the SSDs and leave them like that. I have to admit I didn't like filling up the 500's SSD. That made me uncomfortable but nothing bad happened during the week it was full.

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    A couple days ago I thought the SSD in the 24-200 had gone bad. I could not get the 24 to recognize every remote control command. The Power light on the HR would not blink as I pressed the button at times. Then, if I waited long enough, the command would be processed. I was watching a football game in the utility room because watching a football game on the 44 is not pleasant. I reset the 24. Didn't help. Got new batteries, didn't help. Had a few unused remotes in that room, tried them all. Same thing happened. Never had a problem like this.

    Had to blame it on the SSD. Been waiting for something to happen that I could blame on the SSD. Went back to the 44 upstairs, finished the game with the bottom half of the screen blacked out by the Black Shroud and went to bed hoping that somehow the problem would disappear in the morning. Didn't happen, nothing changed. Took the 24 apart, removed the SSD and put the HDD back in. Booted up the 24 and started watching another game. The 24 still had the same problem. Oh, goody. Not the SSD. Made the call to ATT Retention and I should have a replacement in a couple days. Took the 24-200 that I just got as a replacement for a bad 24-500 and put the SSD in a dock on it. Booted right up and I watched the same game with no problem at all. Not the SSD's fault.

    Two HRs go bad within 2 weeks. What are the odds?

    The 1TB SSDs like the one I have on the 44 are now selling at ~ $143. They might drop some more next week when the Black Friday sales begin.

    Let me throw this out there, it makes me wonder: I have a thread running about the Amazon Cube. I was told that I could use an Echo device in the same manner as the Cube. The day the remote command problem started I was trying to get an Echo device to work in my utility room that would do the same things a Cube would do on that TV/AVR system. That didn't go well and I was on the phone with an Amazon CSR that was trying to help me. I was struggling and so was he. I had found a section in the Alexa app that told me I could control an HR with a Cube. We decided to try that. Turns out you can only control a 44, 54 or 17 with an Echo device. And you can only control a Smart TV with an Echo device. I really should have read the complete section that I found. Could not control anything in that room but a few apps. Not the HR, not the TV set, which is a 1080p plasma, not a Smart TV. But I tried to make the connection to the 24 several times and I did see the Power light on the front panel blink several times. With me so far?

    Could doing what I did to the 24 have corrupted it to the extent that I could not get the remote to work properly? I have never had that problem. That was the first time I tried to "pair" a 24 with an Echo device. Was that why it happened, why I had to get the 24 replaced? Is that even possible?

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    My remote does that daily now. Refuses commands for a couple of minutes and then it works without a problem. Others have also reported that their remote hangs up but it is not the remote, it is the software in the machines.
    I reset my HR24 every Sunday when I come to the Den and it does not seem to make a difference.
     
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    It got to the point where the remote was useless. Pretty sure it was the 24 at fault. But did I cause that?

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    My wife is having the same issue on her HR24 and it is using an external SSD. Tried 2 different remotes and still have the same issue. Interesting that the fix is a replacement HR24. Guess I need to call them.
     
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    I do not think it is possible for you to cause it.
     
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    Same here on my HR24
     
  17. Rich

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    Remember the door chime war I waged with a neighbor a couple years ago? Would you have thought that could have stopped my cars ability to respond to the key fob commands? Only reason I mentioned what I did with the Cube and the 24 was the Power light blinked a couple times when I was trying to get the Cube to control the 24. It blinked. The attempt failed and the remote got goofy. Maybe a coincidence. I have no idea why that happened.

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    Does it get so bad you give up and use another DVR? That's how bad it was the other night.

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    I cannot blame the SSD. I took the SSD out of the 24 and hooked up the internal drive again. Nothing changed. I made the call for a replacement and put another 24-200 in its place. I have seen no similar problems with the 24 I put in its place and I have the SSD in a dock on that. I watched the whole Monday night football game on the 24 and had no remote issues.

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  20. b4pjoe

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    My wife gets pretty upset about it but no she doesn't go to another DVR or TV. It isn't the SSD though. I put that on there because the screen display of the menus was sluggish and it helped with that. This problem is you press a button on the remote and nothing happens at all or there is a long delay. Probably about 3 seconds but it seems forever. Once it finally gets the signal from the remote the screen display is fine.
     

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