What I'm Finding Out About Myself From Streaming-Only...

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  1. dreadlk

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    Yes I agree, many of the interfaces are terrible. In particular I find Amazons transport buttons to be so bad that I am scared to touch them. One moment the show moves by a few seconds at a time in FF or RW and the next moment it jumps by 5 minutes.
     
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  2. Mark Holtz

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    Your wife... my mother. I swear, they have a random script generator AI installed to generate the plot and some of the dialogue.
     
  3. James Long

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    AI infers intelligence. Just saying.

    I won't say more because I'll hear comments about watching cars drive in a circle for four hours. Or people crashing in to each other on a football field. Or low scoring soccer and hockey games. Or issues with the drama and comedy shows that I like to watch.
     
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  4. Rich

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    Amazon disappoints me. I think they do everything well and then they screw this up. I don't go there very much, just a month or two a year. Looks good, kinda NF-like, when you open it up. But there are lots of things to complain about with that app.

    Rich
     
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  5. Rich

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    Yes, the "sameness" is disturbing. And when you see an actor you recognize and enjoy you get to see what poor directing and producing can do to a good actor.

    Rich
     
  6. LTYRS

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    I like all the shows you described because they are real life events and not scripted, I like soccer also its not a game of only scoring, the goal is special because its so hard to do, takes skill and a lot of strategy.
    I watch some of the romantic shows with my wife also, happy wife happy ...well you know
     
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  7. billsharpe

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    I don't watch golf (too boring), car races (too noisy), or soccer (too low-scoring). I seldom watch baseball (too drawn-out) but enjoy college football and basketball.
     
  8. B. Shoe

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    As we're a couple of weeks into a "new normal" during the COVID-19 crisis, I thought I'd chime back in on this thread with some additional thoughts.

    Earlier in this thread, I said I viewed YTTV as essentially a $50 sports subscription package, as it allows me access to ESPN, FS1, NBC Sports, etc. Since we are in a time without live sports, I find myself only watching local channels on YTTV, and that's mainly during local news broadcasts. I've tried to branch out on some programs I've been "wanting to watch" on Apple TV+, Netflix, etc. But I honestly find myself just playing some music and winding down without my television on each night.

    Anyone else experiencing any major shifts in which services you're accessing the most?
     
  9. Rich

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    Nope, still have no interest in linear TV. Still merrily streaming.

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  10. wmb

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    Not a shift so much as opportunism. Free CBS All Access for a month plus another for the ENJOY code means Star Trek Picard and Discovery, and maybe Twilight Zone.

    Network show seasons end soon, so that will mean more streaming as well. A couple of shows to catch up on.

    So, different approaches, but not so much due to recent circumstances. More like continuing a long term trend.


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  11. B. Shoe

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    I like that word; opportunism. I'm diving into some shows that I likely never would purposely cut out a basketball game or something similar to watch. (Ex: I finally gave "See" on Apple TV+ a try.) Then again, I'm also trying to limit the amount of time I'm spending in front of the television in the evening, also. So it's all pretty strategic.

    Good thoughts, wmb.
     
  12. espaeth

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    I ended up cancelling YoutubeTV. I have good OTA coverage here, an antenna in my garage, and I picked up a HD Homerun months ago with the anticipation of using the Channels DVR. I scrapped that plan when YTTV allowed recording locals in addition to all the games I was watching through the service.

    My biggest surprise: I never use the local channel library on YTTV.

    It's just a better experience to watch shows through Hulu (ABC,NBC,FOX) or CBS AA because I don't have to worry about skipping commercials at all, since I sub to the commercial free versions of both services. For live viewing, I still have the Channels app on the ATV (and iPad/iPhone) that interfaces with the HD Homerun to offer both a guide and uses the filesystem of the ATV to provide a playback buffer for trickplay functions (pause, rewind, etc) without the need for any Internet service or separate DVR.

    My ATT wireless service includes WatchTV (35+ channels, no DVR, single stream) and HBO (soon to be HBO Max). This is just enough to watch LivePD, or provide background HGTV, History, Discovery, or Food network programming.

    Adding on to that: Netflix, Disney+ (3 year D23 deal), Amazon Prime Video, and Apple TV+ (free year with Apple purchase).

    Without much going on for live sports, I elected to add $50/mo to my food shelf donation instead of spending it on YTTV.
     
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  13. SledgeHammer

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    I'm using Amazon Prime Trial + Cinemax Trial to finish watching Strike Back as that's the cheapest option. AP is a paid service and Cinemax is supposed to be a premium service on top of that. My typical non streaming data usage is 2-3 GB on weekends. I watched 4 1/2 episodes of Strike Back yesterday, again, on a double premium service and my data usage was @ 10 GB. So a double premium service is compressing HD down to 1 - 1.5 GB / hr. Unacceptable. I definitely wouldn't keep Cinemax based on what I've seen on Strike Back PQ. I'll admit I never had any intention to, I just want to finish up this show, but in the dark scenes, you can't even make ANYTHING out. Not sure if thats AP or Cinemax compressing it that hard.
     
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    I still don't get why YTTV makes you record every episode of a show. That's a non starter for me aside from the missing channels. Looks like I'm going to be cancelling DTV since they aren't reupping my promo and there isn't a path forward to 4K, but I'll be going TVision.
     
  15. lparsons21

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    What are you using for the streaming? I’ve watched Strike Back using the AppleTV and it isn’t all that dark. I noticed on my FireTV that all video is a bit darker than on the AppleTV.
     
  16. espaeth

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    Amazon has made a few adjustments to their streaming platform over the last couple years. They've gone more heavily into H.265 encodes to lower bandwidth to drive the same quality. It appears they have also been keeping H.264 encodes available for players that don't support H.265, but they're encoding them at lower bitrates so the end result ends up being about the same size as the H.265 stream. Depending on what device you're using to watch, that can dramatically impact picture quality.

    It makes consuming via YTTV or Hulu (or CBS AA) work out about the same. With Hulu you go into the catalog, select the show you want to watch, and typically work your way through the episodes by season. Shows don't get deleted, they just get marked as watched. Eventually on Hulu certain season rights expire and they drop out of the catalog.

    Same deal for YTTV, shows are categorized by season, get marked as watched so you know where you are in watch progress, and after 9 months without a re-broadcast shows age out of your catalog.

    The biggest advantage of Hulu / CBS AA: No need to worry about forwarding through commercials, because there are no commercials.
     
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    I'm using Amazon Prime + Cinemax add-on through my LG OLED Amazon Prime app. Yeah, Strike Back doesn't have too many dark scenes, but I was watching a season 4 episode where they rescue the little girl and in one scene Scott was in a dark room talking to her and his face was COMPLETELY black crushed. If I was watching it umm... nefariously lol... that'd be a different complaint, but for a paid+paid setup, that's disappointing.
     
  18. SledgeHammer

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    Interesting note on AP. I have a 2016 LG OLED and watching through that.

    I think we had this conversation before lol... my MO is I'll watch a show when its airing, so I only care about new episodes and depending on the show, if I'm bored, I'll look through the guide and there might be an episode or two that's re-watch worthy, or I'll remember it had a funny scene. In that case I'm looking through 10 episodes if I want to watch one of them. That's doable. Looking through 200+ episodes is not. Example: If I'm bored, I might look at what eps of King Of Queens are airing today. That's a quick check. I'm not going to scour the 200+ episode list looking for one to watch. That'll take forever.

    The way YTTV's DVR is, its more conducive to somebody wanting to watch every episode in order of a show they've never seen before.

    In the case of Strike Back, that's what I'm doing now. In the case of King Of Queens, I most definitely don't want to watch every episode, just if the description tickles my fancy and if there's nothing better to watch.
     

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