What will DirecTV do to compete with Apple and others ?

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  1. May 31, 2015 #61 of 130
    Rich

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    I've tried some of the cheaper learning remotes. Not worth the money. The Harmony 650 refurbished can be had on Amazon for fifty bucks. I'd buy that one before a lesser known brand. Here's the link.

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  2. May 31, 2015 #62 of 130
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    I've got so many HRs, BD players, streamers and TVs (9 now) that if I bought one and it was liked by the family, I'd be buying several. And I know there's a learning curve, and I'm sooooo lazy...it's just too much to even contemplate.

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  3. May 31, 2015 #63 of 130
    Tom Robertson

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    Installed the chrome extension on my PC. I likie! :)

    Which could lead to an explosion of chrome buttons in my address bar. Hmmm.... :)

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  4. May 31, 2015 #64 of 130
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    And also another thing you don't tend to think much of that we already see a ton of - on screen product placements. I can think back to the pilot episode for "Smallville" which featured Clark Kent opening his fridge which had a long paused shot of a bunch of cans of Pepsi and Mountain Dew. If that's not obvious paid for product placement then what is?

    Let alone an season 4 episode of same series that had an entire scene with Clark Kent in a locker room slowly putting on some deodorant (forgot the brand) with the company's logo in clear view nearly the entire time.
     
  5. May 31, 2015 #65 of 130
    AngryManMLS

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    If you shop around well enough you can find the Harmony 650 within the $50-60 range on eBay and Amazon. I just replaced my aging Harmony 880 that's nearly a decade old and so far the Harmony 650 in many ways is a huge upgrade over the Harmony 880. Namely the 650 d-pad has softer keys compared to the 880 hard plastic d-pad. Not to mention having the red, blue, yellow, and green buttons which is nice for some of the functions those buttons are used for on DirecTV. The only thing I will say the 880 has better is having two more buttons for us with the remote's screen and a rechargeable battery. But to be fair since I'm now using Eneloop rechargeable batteries with my 650 that's become a null point at best to me.
     
  6. May 31, 2015 #66 of 130
    Tubaman-Z

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    Rich, I've got 4 Rokus in my household (1 is a Roku 3) and I've...placed 3 more into good homes. ;) None that I'm aware of have had the router problems you've described. Definitely something strange going on.
     
  7. May 31, 2015 #67 of 130
    Tubaman-Z

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    Great point - I've seen shows (Warehouse 13 comes to mind) that are so obviously car ads. “Hey have you checked out this car’s Entunes™ system? It’s got Bing and Pandora…” That was really painful. But again, if that would pay for the show so I don't have to, great.
     
  8. May 31, 2015 #68 of 130
    James Long

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    Hawaii Five-O did a long commercial for Subway during an episode. There are also a lot of glamor shots of the cars in car chases on Hawaii Five-O ... it seems they have car car chases just to demonstrate the vehicles. The old TV series "Chuck" also mentioned Subway enough to be obnoxious. Nothing new ... but "promotional consideration" should be more clearly announced. And NOT alter the storyline.
     
  9. May 31, 2015 #69 of 130
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    Exactly. There is a balance between having the characters exist in a real world and the real world advertising needs impact the characters, the story, the flow.

    The art is in integrating product placements in ways that feel natural, add to the character development, or otherwise punctuate the dialog. "Got any Beemans?" "Everybody who reads comic books knows that the Kirby Silver Surfer is the only true Silver Surfer." :)

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  10. May 31, 2015 #70 of 130
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    I gave Chuck a bit of a pass for that as it was clear that if it weren't for Subway, the series would have been cancelled. The Pawn Stars doing Skype, or the type of thing that was done on Warehouse 13 or Bones was really bad.
     
  11. May 31, 2015 #71 of 130
    slice1900

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    Well yes Netflix has new content, but their new content is more of the same. House of Cards uses expensive stars, has high production values, etc. so it is basically a network program that is on a new "network". This makes Netflix a more attractive subscription, but it doesn't change the game in terms of allowing lower cost production of content where the savings can be passed onto the viewer. Kevin Spacey isn't getting paid less because House of Cards is on Netflix rather than CBS, AMC or HBO, nor is anyone else associated with the production.
     
  12. May 31, 2015 #72 of 130
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    I don't mind product placement in terms of seeing the Pepsi logo, the Dell logo, the Mercedes logo, etc. But man that crap with Warehouse 13 was painful to see, you are absolutely right. If I was watching a new show and that happened, I'd quit watching right then and never get engaged. I guess that's why they waited until the last season to do those blatant car ads.
     
  13. Jun 1, 2015 #73 of 130
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    I don't know how many of my posts you've read, but I have no luck at all. If one thing is gonna happen to one person on this site, it's probably gonna be me. I really doubt it's the router, I have no other problems with it and my Fire TV boxes run well on it. I'm waiting to see if the Fire boxes get HBO NOW. I bought 3 Fire TV boxes and immediately had problems with the batteries on the remotes going dead in a week or less. I posted about it, was gonna send all 3 of them back, but I was assured by some members that their batteries were lasting so I stuck with the Fire boxes. No more problems with the batteries. It was like a test of my patience.

    I just read a post by a member that has a 10 year old HR20-100. I've had every model of HRs ending in 100 and none of them worked except for the 24-100s. I don't know how many of those other 100s I had, but it was a lot. And here is someone posting about a 20-100 that he's been using for 10 years...my God how does this happen?

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  14. Jun 1, 2015 #74 of 130
    slice1900

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    Did they ship with batteries? Maybe they save a few pennies by using ultra cheap batteries that can only last a short time.
     
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    Yeah, those quit after a couple days. I put new Duracells in them and they didn't last long either. Then they stopped toying with me and I haven't had to change a battery in the remotes since. It's really like they're playing with me just to see how long I'll hold onto them. Sounds a bit like thinking dogs think like people, which I think they do. Now I'm adding sentience to devices...

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  16. Jun 1, 2015 #76 of 130
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    I'd rather see product placement regarding cars than cars with their logos removed.

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    Bill Broderick

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    My favorite was when Chevy was promoting the redesigned Camaro while the main characters on the show were still driving the previous year's version. Predictably, the they got into an accident with the Camaro (the other guys fault, of course) and the character upgraded to the new model.
     
  18. Jun 1, 2015 #78 of 130
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    Was it simple, like "oh hey I see you upgraded to the new model since your old one was totalled" or was it painful to watch like "check out my 2015 Camaro, it has <insert lengthy list of features and specs as they zoom in on them for no reason>" and maybe add something about being able to get the new one to replace his old car because of his great insurance coverage and thrown in an insurance ad as a bonus.

    I'd much rather see cars with the Audi logo removed or whatever than see crap like that.
     
  19. Jun 1, 2015 #79 of 130
    James Long

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    The car is practically a character in the show ... it gets more screen time than many of the billed actors. Changing cars, just like any other character change, is a major plot point.
     
  20. Jun 1, 2015 #80 of 130
    Bill Broderick

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    It was a combination of the two, but leaning more toward the "simple" one. What was painfully obvious was that, with all of the Camaro "bumpers" ("Hawaii Five-O is brought to you by the new Camaro") in and out of the commercials, you just knew that, by the end of the episode, they were going to be driving that same "new Camaro".
     

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