Whats the point of Directv 4K?

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  1. Oct 22, 2019 #1 of 168
    DSB

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    3 weeks back I got 4K installed - free receiver, free install, they changed the dish but I did have to sign up for another 2 years at their mercy. Was excited but the only channel broadcasting is 104 and the other couple of them are pay per view. And the channel 104 which has 30 minutes boring episodes on various subjects does not look noticeably superior to what picture quality I am seeing on my Samsung 4K tv regular channels. Do you all 4K directv subscribers feel its worth all the trouble of getting the install when there is hardly any content. When you visit the Directv website, they have heavy promotion of 4K going on and they want you to subscribe to it. But whats the point?
    Am I missing something here? Is there something else available in 4K from Directv? Thanks for your input.
     
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  2. Oct 22, 2019 #2 of 168
    trh

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    Sports. I see the next two Thursday night football games will be in 4K on channel 105.

    Personally even with three 4K TVs I don't see enough programming to upgrade my equipment.
     
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  3. Oct 22, 2019 #3 of 168
    compnurd

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    Yeh as mentioned no one is getting 4K for channel 104. It is all about the sports which has ramped up a lot over the last 2-3 months
     
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  4. Oct 22, 2019 #4 of 168
    Andrew Sullivan

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    I can tell a small but noticeable improvement with 4K on my Samsung 82NU8000 from 18 ft. It's not dramatic and some 4K is better than others. This years Masters was in 4K and it was sweet. Most of the stuff on 104 is nature documentaries from around the world. These shows lend themselves well to 4K. A lot of under water and jungle shows. Also A Rolling Stones concert, a Garth Brooks concert and half a dozen more concerts. The TV show Mr.Mercedes. Space shows like Hidden Universe. Car shows like Find Me A Classic and Wheeler Dealer.Caribbean Life. Granted these shows repeat themselves during the month. As long as you upgraded for free why not upgrade just to show people what 4K looks like. Especially if you want to invite friends over to watch a NFL game in 4K.
     
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  5. Oct 22, 2019 #5 of 168
    Phil T

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    I used the HS17 and 2 C61K's for over a year for 4K. The promise was always there for more 4K programming. Even upgraded my LNB for reverse band. Gave up after a year with the terrible customer service and billing issues. IMO, no not worth it!
     
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  6. Oct 22, 2019 #6 of 168
    Andrew Sullivan

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    I can see why you gave up on DirecTV but would you have stopped watching 4K? There are some sports being shown live. Big Ten Game coming up and at least two NFL games on Thursdays.
     
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  7. Oct 23, 2019 #7 of 168
    SledgeHammer

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    Nope. You nailed it. There is no point to 4K on DirecTV. If you like sports as others said, there's another few channels. If you don't, don't waste your time now. Get an Oppo 203 instead and live the 4K dream in all its glorious Dolby Vision and 108Mbps data rate :D.
     
  8. Oct 23, 2019 #8 of 168
    slice1900

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    Directv can only show what networks are broadcasting. That's like blaming your local theater if you think the Star Wars sequels are boring and derivative.
     
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  9. Oct 23, 2019 #9 of 168
    Andrew Sullivan

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    I don't think that any non sports shown on DirecTV channel 104 is what we consider network broadcast. It's pretty much canned and played on 104 or 105 for sports.
     
  10. Oct 23, 2019 #10 of 168
    maonstad

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    Read this info about the NFL 4k on Thursdays. README this explains alot about the current 4K upconverted 1080p HDR...
     
  11. Oct 23, 2019 #11 of 168
    P Smith

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    the site is full of info to answer the questions asked so many times before...
     
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  12. Oct 23, 2019 #12 of 168
    Athlon646464

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    If you enjoy the sports offerings, and you have both a good TV and viewing environment (properly placed, set up etc.) then, yes, it's worth the upgrade. If you do not have both the proper setup or do not enjoy sports, then, no, it would not be worth it to you.

    For example, I got a chuckle reading a post above saying his TV is 18' away and he sees a difference between HD and 4k, but it's not dramatic. :eek:

    When someone says they don't notice much of a difference it has to be their setup or their eyes. I've been to friends houses and they have their TV on 'torch' mode (set up like it is in the store) and they wonder why there isn't much of a difference when they stream 4k on Netflix.

    Or they have poor WiFi and wonder why they don't see much of a difference. Or they are watching their LED TV a little off to the side and wonder why the colors are muted and the picture looks a little dark and they don't see much of a difference when watching 4k.

    Etc, etc. etc.

    For me, the difference is stunning especially when the source is HDR or Dolby - whether from D* or any other 4k source I have. Yes - even the well documented FS1 upscaled content looks better than the same thing in HD. And yes, I wish it was 4k all the way through the chain - but it looks damn good.
     
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  13. Oct 23, 2019 #13 of 168
    MysteryMan

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    There's a myth that all HD and 4K content should be razor sharp. In reality the Director's intent, photography, lighting and source material determine the look of the content.
     
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    Athlon646464

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    It's funny you should say that. I've noticed lately that with very good 4k content some shots look a little soft. I can actually see slightly 'out of focus' shots. Or maybe some cameras are not 4k. I have no way to know which it is, of course.
     
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  15. Oct 23, 2019 #15 of 168
    dtv757

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    As mentioned above sports . And 4k is finally getting some good expansion.. still slow but its growing .

    I think earlier this month there were 4 LIVE 4k events at the same time . !!

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  16. Oct 23, 2019 #16 of 168
    SledgeHammer

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    Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that a UHD disc is 108Mbps and streaming 4K content is bastardized down to about 15Mbps or less? :D.

    If you want real, razor sharp 4K, UHD is going to be the only way to get it -- EVER. Streaming will never get to 108Mbps. Plus, you have a much bigger selection.
     
  17. Oct 23, 2019 #17 of 168
    MysteryMan

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    While I totally agree that the best 4K viewing is via 4K Ultra HD disc what I said in post #13 still holds true. Lets look at Director's intent... The Director determines how the video is going to look and whether he wants a soft, sharp or grainy effect it's going to look that way even on a 4K Ultra HD disc...Photography... Film (if so, what film stock is used will have a effect on the look of the video) or Digital...Lighting (vivid, dark, ect.)...Source Material...If the source material is poor it's going to look poor even on a 4K Ultra HD disc. A good example of this is the 1951 sci-fi classic "The Thing from Another World". For decades the source material for broadcast was low quality, even on DVD. Only until the recent Blu-ray release was quality source material and restoration used but even with that there are some scenes that have noticeably lower quality source material than others. Hence the garbage in/garbage out rule.
     
  18. Oct 23, 2019 #18 of 168
    Phil T

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    I actually enjoyed some of the 4K programming on 104. 4k sports/NFL not so much. The difference in picture quality is just not worth it IMO. I pick up a Blue Ray DVD every once in a while on Redbox to get my picture quality fix. The stuff I watched on 104 is pretty much the same I can access in 4K on You Tube directly through my TV with out other equipment. I do have Apple TV, Roku, and a 4K Tivo so plenty of things to play with and I don't miss DirecTV at all.
     
  19. Oct 23, 2019 #19 of 168
    mjwagner

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    I have watched a few of the NFL TNF games in 4k using the Fox Sports app (authorized using PSVue as my provider) on my ATV 4K and on the FireTV Stick 4k. You can definitely tell the difference but I would not classify it as “knock your socks off” different. Honestly the 4k action is really on NetFlix/Prime originals, and first run movies. It was one of the reasons we decided to get rid of D in the first place. While D does have some first run movies available to rent in 4k I find the fact that they want to charge $10.99 while pretty much everybody else (VUDU, Prime, iTunes) charges $5.99 a bit insulting. I guess they do it because they can get away with it...
     
  20. Oct 23, 2019 #20 of 168
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    IMO, the only time 4K looks really really good is outdoor shots with lots of lighting. Indoor shots especially scenes without bright lighting don't make 4K look like people expect. It's clarity and colors that make 4K look very good.

    Doesn't matter whether it is Netflix or Ch. 104-106. Light matters
     

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