Whats the point of Directv 4K?

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  1. Oct 25, 2019 #61 of 171
    Rich

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    You really have to reference the post you're addressing.

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  2. Oct 25, 2019 #62 of 171
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    Good post, good opinions. Thank you.

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  3. Oct 25, 2019 #63 of 171
    Andrew Sullivan

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    To follow up a bit after watching the entire game last night. On a scale of 1-10 for PQ, I give channel 212 a 6.5 and channel 105 a rating of 7.5. Keep in mind I am watching on a Samsung 82NU8000 which is big but not even Samsungs cheapest QLED technology. Also I am 18 ft from the screen. I'm certain that at say 12 feet you would see a bigger difference. Also switching on HDR took away from the overall PQ, no matter how I adjusted it. As to the desire to move up to 4K. Let content quantity and content type (sports etc.) Be the determining factor. The PQ is better for sure, but will you want to watch the programming? For me. YES.
     
  4. Oct 25, 2019 #64 of 171
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    Thanks for the info.

    That's a very good TV. 18' though - wow. I'm not sure at even 12' you would see a huge difference - that's still pretty far away.

    Also - unless your eyes are dead on center with that TV, the colors become muted quickly. It's the nature of an LED screen. That would also reduce the difference you would be able to see.

    For example, if it's flat on the wall (with no tilt), but up higher than your chair, then you are off center just as you would be side to side.
     
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    Athlon646464

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    @Andrew Sullivan - I just read about your TV a little - some common suggestions for HDR include:

    "The issue with HDR+ (and something you’ll want to immediately correct in the settings) is that it automatically changes the color tone to warm - adding a sepia-like filter to the content. If you want to remove the warm hue, you'll need to go into the settings and set the Color Tone back to standard."

    Also - try "go into Settings->Picture->Advanced Settings->Auto Motion Plus and then turn Blur Reduction up to 10, while cranking the Judder down to 0."

    Be sure to write down your settings there before trying that in case you don't like the result and want to put it back.
     
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  6. Oct 25, 2019 #66 of 171
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    The Samsung 82NU8000 is a good TV for mixed usage but reviews state colors wash out at an angle and local dimming doesn't work well.
     
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    Yup - that's why I mentioned unless he's dead on - he's not going to see everything that TV can do.
     
  8. Oct 25, 2019 #68 of 171
    Andrew Sullivan

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    We have two recliners that are setup close to dead center. Closer than 18 ft may be what is recommended by professionals but for most folks whatever that distance is for their specific screen size in unrealistic. I've set up dozens of new TV's for people, going back to Pioneer plasmas and Sony LCOS and Mitsubishi DLP's. Not one single person wanted to sit at the viewing distance the various charts recommend. The Samsung 82NU8000 does not use a anti glare or Matt screen.
     
  9. Oct 25, 2019 #69 of 171
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    I sit 10 feet away from a 77 inch oled and there is a very noticeable difference between the 720p fox broadcast and the "4k" version. If you sit 8 feet from a 55 inch tv there will not be as big of a difference.
     
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  10. Oct 25, 2019 #70 of 171
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    Very interesting responses from all you here - it is educational for me. Last night, I and my wife were switching between Fox and 104 for the Redskins game.
    Found it extremely difficult to see any difference in PQ. I have a SUHD Samsung 65" tv and both PQs were good but was the 4K better - for me no!
    And the other 2 channels where Directv promotes 4K movies for upto $10.99 each with a carrot of 3 days - who watches a movie for 3 days? I watch a movie for 2 hours and I am done with it in a day. Or maybe they expect you to call people living on your block and charge them $1 each to watch the movie over the 3 days and recover the $10.99?
    I hope Directv puts up many more channels under 4K soon otherwise I have been conned into staying with them for the next 2 years.
     
  11. Oct 25, 2019 #71 of 171
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    I have 2 4Ks in the same room

    During the ALCS had one on local fox and the other on fox 4K

    Huge difference

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  12. Oct 25, 2019 #72 of 171
    Andrew Sullivan

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    I'm sorry to say this but there is zero chance that DirecTV will put up any new 4K channels much less many new 4K channels. Nobody can provide 4K material for Directv to send to you. That's why you see only channel 104 with continuous content and even that is repeated very often. No network show, like NCIS or SWAT for instance, is shot with 4K cameras. Actually it might be but no broadcaster wants to spend the money to broadcast it in 4K. I believe several episodes of River Monsters was shot with 4K equipment.
     
  13. Oct 25, 2019 #73 of 171
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    Except for some sports, broadcast tv is not where you will see 4k content.
     
  14. Oct 25, 2019 #74 of 171
    Andrew Sullivan

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    I think FOX broadcasts in 720P but I don't know if 1080i would have been any better. I'm surprised none of the World Series games are not in 4K. The infrastructure is obviously there.
     
  15. Oct 25, 2019 #75 of 171
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    Fox broadcast the ALCS in 4K without commercials on the Fox Sports App. All but one game was on FS1. It's one thing for the network to lose ad revenue but then you have the affiliates losing their ads. In this case it was limited to a single game on Big Fox. If overriding local coverage is an issue for Sunday Ticket it must also factor into World Series coverage. Could be a major holdup in Sunday NFL 4K coverage until affiliates have 4K capability.
     
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  16. Oct 25, 2019 #76 of 171
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    Good post

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  17. Oct 25, 2019 #77 of 171
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    Pretty much was was just said above by @TV_Guy

    Also this post talks about some of the details why we won't see the "big game" (world series/ super bowl) in 4K ... at least not for a while lol

    https://www.avsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=58720660

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  18. Oct 25, 2019 #78 of 171
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    A couple of buddies of mine told me they were getting 4K from DIRECTV before the start of the NFL Season. They said they were going to get football in 4K this year. I told them it isn’t worth it. They didn’t listen at all to me. I told them that there is not even that much 4K content yet. I told them it is going to cost them more money a month towards their bill. They didn’t listen to me. They are locked in to 2 more years and paying for 4K content they thought they’d be getting every week that they aren’t. Not every game is in 4K as a matter of fact I think only the Thursday Night Games are in 4K. Not any of the Sunday Ticket Games. 4K right now even on DIRECTV to me is just not worth the extra money you have to shell out.
     
  19. Oct 25, 2019 #79 of 171
    Rob37

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    I think Local FOX channels are a BIG reason why. Your Local FOX Channel wants you watching on their channel. BIG holdup as to why not all the games are in 4K yet.
     
  20. Oct 26, 2019 #80 of 171
    Andrew Sullivan

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    Rob, there is absolutely no extra charge for the 4K channels. It is included with every DirecTV package. If you are a new customer the equipment is free along with a 2 year contract.. When anybody upgrades the 2 year contract comes along with the upgrade. Dish Network is exactly the same.
     
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