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When is HDPC-20 going to be released? (UPDATE: Product has been suspended)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by smiddy, Apr 13, 2008.

  1. morphy

    morphy Legend

    Jun 5, 2007
    Interesting action on The Green Button forums... it seems that the VMC "TV Pack 2008" (aka Fuji) was released, but to OEM's only. A lot of the users are reporting that their respective OEM's know absolutely nothing about it. The OEM's say "call Microsoft", and Microsoft says "call your OEM".


    Oh well, if these releases truly are OEM-only, then its only a torrent file away. :D

    Hopefully this will be the first release, and then the next one will have DirecTV support.
  2. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

    Apr 5, 2006
    Thanks Morphy!
  3. dbsdave

    dbsdave Godfather

    May 1, 2007
    Not really good news to me, for one it confirms vista wont have directv support for quite a while longer if ever, not surprising considering recent rumors, but also confirmation that microsoft intends to go ahead with this OEM only update route. Lets hope we all can install these updates whether microsoft wants us to or not.
  4. Aug 6, 2008 #184 of 296

    bsand2007 Cool Member

    May 29, 2007
    From the sounds of this blog posting, we shouldn't be holding our breath for an HDPC-20 to be released any time soon....

    "When testers (and those of us who love talking to them) first began hinting about Fiji two-plus years ago, Fiji was set to be a major update to Media Center. As the test builds finally started rolling out, it became clear that Microsoft was cutting a number of promised and anticipated features, such as Direct TV and H.264 video-compression support, in order to get the update out the door."

  5. Aug 6, 2008 #185 of 296

    morphy Legend

    Jun 5, 2007
    Yeah, this was mentioned earlier on The Green Button forums. In fact, Fiji has already been released although it is only to OEMs for the moment. It does not have H264 or DirecTV HDPC support.

    The going semi-rumor is that there will be a second update to VMC that will include H264 with DRM (which will support DirecTV's HDPC among other devices) and also DVB-S for people in Europe with premium HD.
  6. Aug 6, 2008 #186 of 296
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    I'd hate for folks to turn blue in the face ..
  7. Aug 6, 2008 #187 of 296
    Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    Why...you prefer green?
  8. Aug 6, 2008 #188 of 296
    P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    The whole idea has predictable result. Negative.
  9. Aug 6, 2008 #189 of 296

    MIAMI1683 New Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Thats not a good statement for the future of this. :nono2:
  10. Aug 6, 2008 #190 of 296

    LarryFlowers New Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    That ZDNet article leaves alot to be desired...

    One thing glaringly stands out: I participated in close to 2 years of Vista beta testing. Windows "7" has yet to reach the point of beta testing beyond a very close knit group. The thought that Windows "7" will come out in 2009 is Ludicrous in the extreme. WIndows 7 in late 2010 is much more likely.
  11. Aug 6, 2008 #191 of 296

    Rob77 Godfather

    Sep 24, 2007
    If we have to wait two years for the HDPC-20....they may as well forget about it. As quickly as technology changes and new equipment comes to the forefront.....developers and customers will come up with an alternative unit long before a 24 month period. After all....this is NOT rocket science :)
  12. Aug 6, 2008 #192 of 296
    Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    As you surely know, Doug takes absolutely no pleasure in his note.
  13. Aug 6, 2008 #193 of 296

    morphy Legend

    Jun 5, 2007
    My apologies, bsand. I didn't read the whole article and I assumed it was just rehashed Fiji info. And well, we all know what happens when I "assume".

    So yeah, I'm leaning closer and closer to purchasing a Hauppauge HD PVR and just going Sage. If I do, and DirecTV downrezzes premium HD (I don't care about PPV) then I'll drop them.

    One way or another, I will be watching HD over cat-5 and not RG6 runs to each room, and over an interface more in tune with this decade. (as opposed to the Atari 2600-esque HR20 GUI)
  14. Aug 6, 2008 #194 of 296

    scuba_tim Godfather

    Sep 23, 2006
  15. Aug 6, 2008 #195 of 296

    dbsdave Godfather

    May 1, 2007
    Directv and microsoft are making my life very difficult. I have a nice mult room htpc setup that's not being used to its fullest because the wifey does not want an over complicated setup like with the hauppage. If I have to reinstall with a different vista, then so be it, but Im tired of all the broken promises and delays. I don't want to switch providers, but this is making me consider it.
  16. Aug 6, 2008 #196 of 296

    HelenWeathers Mentor

    Oct 7, 2007
    My hopes were raised for the HDPC-20 at CES Jan 2007. I am very disappointed it has taken so long. In fact I have given up and gone with SageTV and the Hauppauge HD PVR. Sage plays my dvr-ms file library just fine and the Haup unit with Sage gives a far better picture than my analog tuners w svideo. On par with my computers internal DigitalTV tuner.
  17. Aug 6, 2008 #197 of 296

    grizzly Legend

    Aug 27, 2005
    As I look at it, DTV had a narrow window before IPTV made it to the mainstream and I think if it takes them longer than the end of the year they are going to lose that window.

    Nothing would make me happier than to dump all my cable and sat boxes and have a broadband connection, a media center and TV a la carte'.

    I'd have the channels and shows I wanted and no religious, shopping, sports, infomercial channels/shows.

    This really hacks me off.

  18. Aug 6, 2008 #198 of 296

    MIAMI1683 New Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    I know he doesn't. He is just telling it like it is. Better now instead of having everybody's hopes up.
  19. Aug 6, 2008 #199 of 296

    morphy Legend

    Jun 5, 2007

    Put the HTPC in a closet and put that in your living room. I keep my VMC server (possibly soon to be SageTV server) in a network rack in my basement.
  20. Aug 6, 2008 #200 of 296

    morphy Legend

    Jun 5, 2007
    I used to recommend DirecTV to everyone I knew.

    Now when people come over they are impressed the most with my VMC setup, not my DirecTV setup. When they ask me why I'm only capturing SD over S-Video instead of recording HDTV, I tell them that it is DirecTV's and Microsoft's fault.

    And don't even say OTA. I don't live where I can receive it consistently and network television is worthless anyway (my opinion).

    In a relatively short amount of time, I AM going to be able to do this. The question is whether I'll be doing it in a way that makes DirecTV's TRUE customers (the television networks) happy or not. Like I said earlier, if they down-rez component outputs for anything but PPV, I'll drop them like a rock. I can buy PPV movies in HD from just about anybody, so that doesn't bother me that I lose the ability to buy it from DirecTV.

    I have pairs of RG-6 run to a large number of rooms in my house (more than I have televisions) for DirecTV reception, alongside pairs of cat5. In December, the RG6 will be removed and used to pull through a mix of USB, HDMI, more cat-5, and maybe even fiber to each room. Why? Because it (RG6) is dead technology once its used past my network rack. I'm just waiting on the #1 satellite company in the world to stumble onto this fact too.

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