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Where is the 4K anticipation thread?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by SledgeHammer, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. SledgeHammer

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    I guess...

    It would probably make more sense economically to just lower the compression rates & go to progressive scan vs. bumping up the resolution at this point.
     
  2. Jeremy W

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    Yes, what we really need is 1080p60 with less compression. It would still be a massive visual upgrade from anything broadcast today.
     
  3. SledgeHammer

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    Well, for a lot of people out there... SD is "good enough". I've compared Cox 1080i and DirecTV 1080i on the same exact equipment / cables, etc side by side and saw that the DirecTV signal was much better. The DirecTV signal as it is now is pretty much "good enough" for me on my 50" 1080p Plasma. Would I like it cleaned up a bit and sharper and less pixelated? Sure, but not if I had to spend a ton of money.
     
  4. Jeremy W

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    That's the point. If you want bang for your buck, 1080p60 with less compression will be far better than 4K.
     
  5. yosoyellobo

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    One place were 4k might be of use in instant-replay especially baseball and soccer.
     
  6. Jeremy W

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    Instant replay is provided by the broadcast equipment. So that would mean broadcasters having to upgrade all of their equipment to 4K. Only the newest trucks can even handle 1080p, there is nothing in the pipeline for 4K.
     
  7. evnow

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    A lot of people are excited about this personal 3D "projector" with 720p OLED display. There is already a pre-order list at AVS.

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1357798

    OLED gives very good blacks, very high contrast and excellent motion tracking.
     
  8. P Smith

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    I'm ready ! :) - my Apple Cinema HD 30" support 4K (2560x1600) :p.
     
  9. Laxguy

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    +1.

    Even 1080i with very good lenses and less/better compression would be a big step up.
     
  10. Laxguy

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    And you don't need near 4K to provide excellent HQ HD for sports slo-mo. Currently there are cameras that do something like 180 or more fps that gives a fine slo-mo picture in HD.... How many/where/cost of such cameras? Dunno. Seen 'em on some golf events.
     
  11. Jeremy W

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    Those cameras are used everywhere in pro sports. Baseball and football especially. These guys provide most of these cameras: http://www.inertiaunlimited.com/
     
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    Football, not so much. Superbowl, yes, but regular season, no, at least not IU equipment. Baseball, golf, skating all use them a bunch.

    I surmise that some sports lend themselves to the super slo-mo capabilities of those fabulous cameras, but football less so due to a play happening ca. every 30 seconds. Therefor, regular slo mo will do.

    Perhaps even more interesting parts of that site deal with POV cameras they make. Great site; thanks.
     
  13. Jeremy W

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    IIRC there are six regular season NFL games that have super slow mo cameras every week. CBS and FOX A & B games, SNF, and MNF.
     
  14. Laxguy

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    Didn't see such on the website you posted. Perhaps you can provide an URL for your recollections?

    Certainly, a competitor might be providing HQ super slo-mo, no?
     
  15. Jeremy W

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    Here's the info on Fox: http://sportsvideo.org/main/blog/2011/09/06/fox-sports-looks-to-improve-no-1-sports-network/

    SNF: http://sportsvideo.org/main/blog/20...-football-nbc-wont-settle-for-less-than-best/

    Not specifically about MNF, but mentions what they have: http://sportsvideo.org/main/blog/20...ye-on-celebrities-during-nba-finals-coverage/

    Can't quickly find anything on CBS, but I know they use them too.
     
  16. Beerstalker

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    I'm with some of the other's here, I think we may start to see more 4K displays, but don't think we will see much 4K material, at least not in the near future.

    4K will be big for passive 3D tech, allowing it to be used and still retain a full 1080p picture for each eye.
     
  17. Jeremy W

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    You're making the assumption that 3D will still be a thing when 4K TVs start coming to market. I'm not so sure about that.
     
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    I think it will be.

    In the past 3D never really took off because it had a lot of issues.

    First of course was the picture quality/color quality. Anaglyph sucked.

    Now we pretty much have to picture quality thing taken care of. The new active 3D setups look great. The cost/bulk of the glasses is the big thing holding it back from growing quicker.

    The new passive sets are starting to sell pretty well, and the glasses are cheap, but people have had to give up some picture quality.

    New 4K passive sets will be more expensive at first, but the glasses will be cheap, and they will eventually figure out a way to make passive work well without glasses at all. That is when 3D will really take off I think.
     
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    I disagree. Techies make up all kinds of excuses as to why 3D has been a failure, but they ignore the simple fact that nobody really gives a damn about 3D. The technology has very little to do with it.
     
  20. Beerstalker

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    I disagree with that. I have recently installed 3 Panasonic ST30s at friends houses and they have been really excited about 3D. I hadn't even told them ahead of time they were getting it. Most of my friends also always seem to opt for the 3D versions of movies in the theater if there is an option (they just complain that they cost more). My friends are not techies.

    Not to mention kids. Kids pretty much expect their movies to be 3D now and are upset if they aren't. They will probably continue to expect that for movies into the future.
     

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