Who has actually switched from HR22 to HR23?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by bighoopla, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. mgtr

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    Just for info, D* offered a free HD DVR for being a 10 year customer. I obviously took it. The technician is here now, and is installing an HR23-700, which, from what I read here is OK. I guess what you get is just the luck of the draw.
     
  2. Rich

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    And they jumped out with the best of the HR manufacturers. Smart business move.

    Rich
     
  3. paulman182

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    FWIW, YMMV!

    My -100s seem just as good as my -700.
     
  4. spunkyvision

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    If you had an HR21 and had slow responses from the unit and upgraded to an HR22/HR23 did you notice any differences?

    I am just fed up with the slowness of the HR21. I have 3 HR20s with the hard drives being at or near 85% filled and have no slowness issues. Yet my HR21 has 5% filled (95% free) and it takes WAY too long. I have rebooted, swapped hard drives, etc but its just slow.
     
  5. PatrickGSR94

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    When I say my HR22 is slow, I'm comparing to my H23 standalone (not DVR). Someone over on AVSforum said that's "just the way it is" because there's "more going on" inside the DVR box than just a regular HD box. Not really the answer I wanted to hear but oh well. :(
     
  6. MartyS

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    THat's true... I do believe that there is a lot more processing going on in the DVR than in a standalone receiver. I just don't have a high def standalone to compare against.
     
  7. Richierich

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    The HR23-700 uses the Broadcam BCM5325 chipset. I would never have guessed that.
     
  8. Sixto

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    that's just the ethernet switch.
     
  9. Richierich

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    Yes I just found out that. Does it use the BCM7401?
     
  10. Sixto

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    think so. same as the hr21/hr22. we think. no one has noticed a speed improvement so that's the guess but no one has actually looked under the head sink :)
     
  11. Coumyl

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    I Just replaced my HR20-100 for a HR23 today and i didn't notice any big difference in picture quality or sound. The only thing I did notice was that it runs very quiet compaired to my old HR20 and the hard drive was larger of course.
     
  12. dorfd1

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    why does swm not need bbc's
     
  13. Mike Bertelson

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    Nobody has opened their HR23 as yet and DirecTV hasn't said what the chipset is.

    Anything at this point is speculation. :grin:

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  14. Tybee Bill

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    Most of the posting I have seen has been that they replaced a HR10-250 with a HR2X for free because HR10 were not leased, many paid a lot of money for them (as high as $999) and the now longer function as HD DVRs.

    I got mine for free.
     
  15. Richierich

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    I could have received an HR2X for FREE but I wanted an HR23-700 and they couldn't guarantee that and my local installer here didn't have that DVR yet so I found one and bought it and they gave me $99 credit towards that purchase which was $160 so I paid $61 out of pocket to get the specific unit I wanted, the HR23-700.

    I also got Upgraded for FREE to a 16 Port 6 X 16 Zinwell Multiswitch to replace my 6 X 8 Port Multiswitch. Not bad DIRECTV, way to go!
     
  16. Doug Brott

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    BBCs are needed only to make the B-Band (from the Ka Satellites) visible to the receiver. The HR23-700 uses a wideband tuner so it can see the signals without relocating the B-Band. SWM is a different technology altogether and as a result BBCs don't play a part.

    The bottom line is that the tuners that come in the older receivers (HR20, HR21 & HR22 - plus some others) are not capable of seeing the B-Band. DIRECTV devices a "trick" that made it possible for these receivers to see those signals. This "trick" is what is inside the BBCs.
     
  17. Richierich

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    The new SATELLITES, 99c & 103c, are Ka-Lo which come from the Dish in the 250-750 MHz band. These need to be upconverted to 1650-2150 MHz for the receiver.

    SWM doesn’t require this upconversion.

    Also, the HR23 doesn't require this upconversion because it is done by the Internal Wideband Tuner which upconverts the 250-750 MHz frequency range to the 1650-2150 frequency range which is why the other HR2X DVRs need BBCs to provide the same upconversion.

    That is why OTA channels can't be diplexed into the stream unless they are taken out before the BBCs do their upconverison or they will not be recognized as OTA because they will not exist in their normal frequency range.
     

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