Who Has Gotten A HR54?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by David Ortiz, Aug 6, 2015.

  1. Aug 13, 2015 #61 of 131
    inkahauts

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    Really this is the ONLY problem with using clients and ill bet it affects less than 1% or people who even have 4k service... I would think they could call in and ask for discounts and probably get enough to offset the extra monthly fee.
     
  2. Aug 13, 2015 #62 of 131
    inkahauts

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    There is no hvec decoding in the hr54, so no, it wont do 4k, no matter how much the other site thought it would. ;)

    And it isn't dumb if you look at that economics and the hardware consequences. I pointed them out in another thread, but basically, why make a dvr so expensive that is for everyone, when it would be a first gen thing and not be liked much liked, kind of similar to the hr34 in the long run. Focus on clients for now and when the hardware is mature, then build a good dvr. Do the hr44 first, and skip the hr34 to the customers, so to speak. Also, clients let them make it cheaper too for everyone.

    And the hr54 is a great machine, and for directv its even better, since its basically a less expensive to build version of the hr44. I hope this will help them push towards shutting off the sd mpeg-2 feeds and going mpeg4 only. ATT might want to do that more than Directv even did.
     
  3. Aug 13, 2015 #63 of 131
    inkahauts

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    Actually it needs HVEC decoding more than anything else. ;)
     
  4. Aug 13, 2015 #64 of 131
    peds48

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    Well, that is semantics, it needs HVEC to decode but without 2.2, that is where it stays, sitting inside the box as it can't go nowhere without the safeguards in place.
     
  5. Aug 13, 2015 #65 of 131
    dpeters11

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    Probably true. At this point the whole thing is niche. I'm sure by the time we have actual non PPV 4K there won't be the need for a client.
     
  6. Aug 13, 2015 #66 of 131
    inkahauts

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    Well.. If you are building a house, it needs a foundation.. The foundation is getting the signal to the box. Well we have that already. Now we need the walls before we can build the roof. The walls is HVEC. We cant even think about getting the picture to the tv from a box without being able to decode the signal. Then comes the roof, which is the delivery method in this case. So HDMI and HDCP is the last thing in the chain that is needed to show 4k...
     
  7. Aug 13, 2015 #67 of 131
    peds48

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    This is a silly argument. All components must be there in order to get 4K via HDMI. One without the others is no good.
     
  8. Aug 13, 2015 #68 of 131
    SledgeHammer

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    Yeah, and you are forgetting the SWM7 and Reverse Band LNB too. So you need a whole bunch of crap to make 4K work and none of it is in the HR54 at this point. SWM7 and Reverse Band support "might be" with software and firmware upgrades.
     
  9. Aug 14, 2015 #69 of 131
    P Smith

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    and grammatically incorrect
    it's HEVC - High Efficiency Video Coding
     
  10. Aug 14, 2015 #70 of 131
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    There's no "reverse band support" in receivers. They just see a SWM channel and don't know or care what frequency it was originally broadcast at, which is the only difference between reverse band and Ku and Ka. Assuming Directv uses DVB-S2X bonded transponders on reverse band for 4K then it would need to support that, but they don't really have a need to do that until they have more 4K channels than they have available reverse band transponders, which will be years (unless once they launch the first 4K channel they wish to cram in as many 4K PPV channels as they can) The HR54 either has the hardware to handle bonded transponders, or doesn't. Can't get that from firmware upgrades, anymore than a firmware upgrade could provide HEVC decoding or HDCP 2.2.

    I know some are speculating the SWM7 input while only 5 are currently used/claimed has to do with bonded transponders, which it may, it could equally be that they just decided to limit it to 5 to be compatible with current Genies. They've maintained that a Genie is a Genie is a Genie, and while newer ones may be faster they don't provide any features you can't get any other way (i.e. HR44 does wireless, but you can use a WCCK, HR54 has built in PI, but you can use a PI21) If the HR54 allowed up to 7 recordings and supported 5 clients that would provide a real difference that they may wish to avoid at least for now.
     
  11. Sep 2, 2015 #71 of 131
    weaknees

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    Mods, feel free to delete this post if it is not permitted, but for those interested, we just got some HR54s in stock:

    http://www.weaknees.com/hr54
     
  12. Sep 3, 2015 #72 of 131
    P Smith

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    man... the prices will kill the horse :)

    plus it's too old for current technology nowadays without UHD support :(
     
  13. Sep 3, 2015 #73 of 131
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    Not sure where you got that info...but it's not accurate...
     
  14. Sep 3, 2015 #74 of 131
    P Smith

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    tell me your tail it would support UHD via HDMI ! hehe
     
  15. Sep 3, 2015 #75 of 131
    patmurphey

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    Both DirecTV and Dish are introducing UHD via the client model. The HR54 is intended to support that model as a box with minimal additional hardware so as to be useful as a "Genie" for any customer with minimal additional expense. Genies with UHD HDMI capability are a future development when justified by available content and UHD adoption.

    Few here seem to have figured that out...
     
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  16. Sep 3, 2015 #76 of 131
    P Smith

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    Don't worry, I'm follow the thread and well aware about clients.
     
  17. Sep 3, 2015 #77 of 131
    inkahauts

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    No reason or point for DVR with 4K HDMI today.
     
  18. Sep 3, 2015 #78 of 131
    weaknees

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    FWIW, contrary to the "First Look" document, the HR54 we opened says SWM5, not SWM7. So it appears that DIRECTV now considers the HR54 a SWM5 device.
     
  19. Sep 4, 2015 #79 of 131
    hdtvfan0001

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    Indeed. One has to realize that First Looks may reflect devices which are prototypes in contrast to production versions.
     
  20. Sep 4, 2015 #80 of 131
    jclangston

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    Just curious what cities have have gotten HR54s so far. I thought I remember reading something the other day that someone in Seattle had gotten one.
     

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