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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by mitchflorida, Jul 19, 2012.
Hah! Good one!
I noticed last night that the DirecTv guide no longer shows the channel listings for the channels - it only shows "Kids Mix" for most of them. I guess over time they are hoping that subscribers will forget about them.
We only really watch the Daily show on a regular basis, my kids watch most of the disney channels and the cartoon network.
It has been fun to follow the daily show on twitter and see them making fun of what Viacom has on tv.
I'd be all in favor of an overall reduction of channels offered - I think that many of these networks could be consolidated and offer an overall higher level of programming.
As a Comcast sub, I (still) get all the Viacom channels, but I stand shoulder-to-shoulder in solidarity with Directv, Dish and their cost-conscious subs in rejecting the outrageous rate hikes being demanded by greedy content providers.
That is why I feel slightly guilty while I am watching the Comedy channel. :lol:
There is no need to feel guilty. I can watch the same Comedy Central programming for free on their website or on Hulu. Nickelodeon the same, but they also put lots of stuff on Netflix.
It is just human nature to want to make your organization or company or govt. bigger and bigger.
If you have 6 good channels, why not have 9? If your nine channels are making a profit, go for 12, then 15, then 20. Frankly it never ends until someone offers some pushback, and that is what DirecTV is doing. Not as a public service but because their customers are refusing to accept the outlandish price increases that come with the 27 channels that will grow to 35, etc.
At this time it seems maybe Viacom's winning.The longer the whole thing goes on the more subscribers Directv losses to Dish or Cable or OTA or other Providers.They just need to get a deal done.
The people who would miss Comedy Central or Spike on DTV are the same people who would miss AMC or IFC on Dish. So it would be hard for them to make the switch.
At least where I live, comcast and AT&T cable are at least 10 percent more expensive than DTV.
I think DirecTV has Viacom by the short hairs. The longer they wait, the more they save. DTV hasn't lost 20 per cent of its revenue or anything close to it. Panic time at Viacom?
They don't seem to be "winning", but the blunder on taking down the internet streams doesn't affect the majority of customers of either Viacom or DIRECTV®.
i don't see an option for "who cares"
Using SatRacer's link from another thread:
Viacom is losing $14M/week.
A Directv sub has an immediate value of $1080/year, based on an ARPU of $90/mo.
So as long as Directv loses less than 51852 subs per month due to the Viacom dispute, they would be winning (Churn rate of about .26%)
The "immediate value" totally overlooks cost of acquisition, set up, admin for same, installation, equipment.
Moreover it's not a NPV as it's not discounted for the timing of the stream of payments.
If you're just talking about PR, it's not an even match. Directv has a lot more to lose. That's the name on people see on their bills. They see it on their tv. Viacom is the man behind the curtain, so to speak. Prior to this outage, would most people even know what channels were owned by Viacom? How many will remember when this blows over?
Viacom's winning the PR war because when its all over and Directv will eventually have to cave to there demands.Because Viacom has Directv by the Jingle Bobs right now and squeezing harder and harder there winning the PR war.There more known now than they ever were.So I say in the long run Viacom comes out on top as the true winner. Like Charlie Sheen said WINNER!!.
Well Actually Charlie said WINNING!!!.
Wow, quoting Charlie Sheen!
I couldn't disagree more with your assessment re DIRECTV® having to bring Viacom back on. They don't. Probably will, but don't have to.
I'm winning the PR war!! My approval rating has gone up more than 6 points in scientific polling since I quit watching Tosh.0
I'm not winning and that is ultimately all I care about.
I'd say DirecTV because since these channels have been gone I realized what a package of junk they are anyway. Maybe Nick for the kids, but they don't really give a hoot if Spongebob is a 'new' episode or if it's one of the DVD's they've seen 1300 times. It's all the same to them.
Plus not only is Viacom losing the carriage fees for D* entirely, but ratings on their channels have dropped drastically. Which has to be impacting the rates they get for the endless Geico and Progressive commercials.
Keep 'em off & send a message plz.
I think it is funny that people always equate Nick with Spongebob. My daughter is seriously missing her iCarly, Victorious, Tru Jackson (reruns), How to Rock, Hollywood Heights, and Drake and Josh (reruns).