I know this subject has been discussed on other threads many times, but my search has not come up with an answer to my question. I have (2) R22-100s w/HD and an HR24-200. The R22-100s are extremely slow, especially when I first turn them on in the morning. I've done the RAM clearing, and they are still slow. It is obvious that DTV can and has corrected other flaws in the past. Why can't they seem to fix this glitch? I would appreciate any useful solutions to this problem. Also does anyone know if DTV is working on this problem? Thanks.
Yep, the HDGUI is the problem all right. Before they issued that to my HR24s, I was very impressed with the overall speed of operation and noted that they were nearly as fast as my previous Dish 722k.
It is all in the GUI. Anything requiring me to go to the UI to do things is slow most of the time, those things I can do directly like trickplay and such usually are very good. Except when it decides to ignore the remote.
The only thing we can do is wait. Just like we did after the DLB NR and any other major NRs.
I don't use it all that much either, but if I search say for 'boxing', it misses quite a few shows that I know are coming up. Fortunately for me, I know which of the channels boxing is on, so I just watch for the first event to show up and then set a series link on that.
Yep, the HDGUI is the problem all right. Before they issued that to my HR24s, I was very impressed with the overall speed of operation and noted that they were nearly as fast as my previous Dish 722k.
Well, you've gotten to see the 24s at their best and, now, at their worst. Believe me, this isn't the first time an NR has screwed everything up. It will get better. I hope...nah, I have faith, it will get better. Once that happens all the complaining about slowness will be forgotten. I'd hope that the 34s don't get the new GUI before everything wrong with ours is corrected.
Well, you've gotten to see the 24s at their best and, now, at their worst. Believe me, this isn't the first time an NR has screwed everything up. It will get better. I hope...nah, I have faith, it will get better. Once that happens all the complaining about slowness will be forgotten. I'd hope that the 34s don't get the new GUI before everything wrong with ours is corrected.
I was with D* a bit back and left because for all the updates, upgrades, holding my mouth right and all that, the HR21 I had was a pig. Got to the point of switch to E* or throw the remote and receiver through the window, I opted to switch.
And I know you firmly believe that D* will get it right, I'm not so sure I believe it. But I most likely will stick around 'til August when my rebates expire and at that point I'll re-evaluate where things sit. Since I can pay an ETF at that point and save about $20/month after that is figured in, I may just switch back to E*.
Sorry but the HD GUI is not the sole problem, if even a significantly contributing factor. It has only served to exacerbate the true problem. Regardless of GUI version, the things have always had the exact same, yet to be resolved, issues and behaviour.
One day try to do something and it works reasonably well, next day, or maybe even later the same day, do the exact same thing and it takes exponetially longer to do. This behaviour has been slowly but surely worsening over the entire history of these things.
The REAL problem is some underlying flaw in the overall system. Not just the color and/or amount of pixels that are eventually being drawn on screen.
Having seen no complaints about the speed of THR22's, I'd also venture to say it's not so much a hardware deficiency either. Any time it's come up somewhere it has been said the THR22's are just as snappy as any other Tivo model. Though that does bring to mind all the additional crap that is present in the DTV OS that isn't in the Tivo OS and what effect some of that may be having on the exact same hardware.
For anyone interested in troubleshooting: Came home, turned on the HR22, turned on the guide (this was pretty quick), selected channel 216 from the guide, it took almost 16 seconds for the channel to actually come up. Unacceptable.
Because of the Starz/Encore promotion that started today, I looked ahead in the guide. When I got about 8 hours ahead of current time, the HR-22 went into near death mode. While scrolling though the guide, it would often become totally unresponsive for 30 seconds or more. Then when it woke up, it would sometimes act on the queued remote commands, and sometimes ignore them. The old GUI was slow, but at least it was predictable and repeatable. I could hit a few button presses and it would eventually catch up with them. Now it's just random behavior.
All too often, there is a substantial delay when channel changing commands are given, after the units have been sitting for a long time with no user interaction. I find especially our HR20-700 will produce errors on channel input the first several tries in the morning. Most of the HR2 series boxes have had this problem off and on for a very long time. Some users report that this never happens to them.
I've got two 20-700s that I use as servers. Very rarely "used". They both do something similar to that. Takes them ~ 15 minutes to get up to speed. The rest of my HRs come right on and accept commands without any problems.
That may depend on how many customers report the problem directly to DIRECTV.
There has been much complaining, commiserating and theorizing going on here for years and not much has come of it. Direct pressure is typically more effective than using pressure points.
Has anyone else noticed the long delay when deleting a video from the List? I have an HR24 with MRV. I bring up the List; highlight the program to be deleted; push the Red Button; Yes or No displays; select Yes; the Yes or No re-displays for a second or two; and the List re-displays with the video deleted. I do not recall the delete taking so long. Best wishes!
Has anyone else noticed the long delay when deleting a video from the List? I have an HR24 with MRV. I bring up the List; highlight the program to be deleted; push the Red Button; Yes or No displays; select Yes; the Yes or No re-displays for a second or two; and the List re-displays with the video deleted. I do not recall the delete taking so long. Best wishes!
Has anyone else noticed the long delay when deleting a video from the List? I have an HR24 with MRV. I bring up the List; highlight the program to be deleted; push the Red Button; Yes or No displays; select Yes; the Yes or No re-displays for a second or two; and the List re-displays with the video deleted. I do not recall the delete taking so long. Best wishes!
You'd think they would run out of things to put on the HRs, no? All I ever wanted was a DVR that did what a DVR is supposed to do....:nono2:
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