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Why do some receivers have cards and some don't?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by satcrazy, Jun 18, 2012.

  1. satcrazy

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    Did a quick search but couldn't find anything, although this has probably been asked before.

    Why do some receivers have cards and others don't? I asked a tech while he was troubleshooting a problem, and he just said some do some don't. He really didn't know the reason.

    Are all the vip receivers card free?
     
  2. boba

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    All DISH receivers have "CARDS" some are credit card size cards that slide into card slots. Some are chips built into the circuit boards of the receiver. The VIP models were produced with the last generation of chips built in so some have been updated with credit card style purple cards.

    There are also some receivers on ebay/Craigs list that people have removed the cards:)
     
  3. satcrazy

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    thanks boba

    so vip's don't need the purple cards then?
     
  4. Michael P

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    It depends on the model. I have a 622, it needs the purple card because the chip was made before the latest revision of the encryption.

    When my 622 was new it did not need a card. Then one day that version of the encryption was hacked which necessitated the distribution of the "purple cards". I have since had 2 replacement 622' both were shipped with a purple card in the slot.

    Someone with a 722 or 922 can tell you if those need a purple card as well.
     
  5. P Smith

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    Nope. It's need latest card, regardless if it embedded or credit card type [S19...].

    H2k using G4 (gray) card [S28...] for example because the model doesn't have embedded SC.
    While current J (client) doesn't require SC, it has side slot for 'mini' SC (like GSM smartphone) for future [independent] functioning.
     
  6. satcrazy

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    My original 222k, and replaced 222k both had no card, so it must have the current chip then.

    thanks
     
  7. P Smith

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    Press Info button twice - you'll see the Rxxx and Sxxxx numbers; Sxxx means your box have it. Embedded or not, but without the card your DVR/receiver is dumb.
     
  8. satcrazy

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    Well, in system info, I see smart card ID with a series of numbers and letters following it. This must be what you are talking about.
     
  9. P Smith

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    That's right; on next screens you can see additional SC info: ROM version like DNASP256 and updates level like Dsh07.
     
  10. bnborg

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    Menu button twice is what works on my 722K.
     
  11. satcrazy

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    P,

    All that info is on the same screen, but I see what you are talking about now.

    Thanks

    and, yes you can access this with a double click on menu.
     

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