Why do the HD-DVR's stink so bad?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Sim-X, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. Doug Brott

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    I will guarantee you 100% that in my case it was LCD interference. I was able to duplicate it with multiple TV sets (same model) and multiple DVRs. Reducing the brightness was the solution and it's worked perfect since. So while in this particular case you were right .. It's not always the case in situations like this.
     
  2. Shaqdan

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    I don't doubt it. However, in my case and the original poster's case, the issue was not related to LCD interference. It's obvious that there's some sort of problem. It's just frustrating.
     
  3. paulh

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    I never figured out that timing with 0x34C. It seemed if my "wait buffer" was one millisecond too short, I'd inevitably get occasional double inputs. If I waited one millisecond too long, the channel input timed out, cleared itself and I was back to step one...

    I really did think my remote batteries were low, but with the 0368 update all is well. (no LCD, just CRT's here) the most amazing thing is the remote TV (modualtor coax connected with a good 'ole IR cone) I became a contortionist using the remote with 0x34c, and now that remote works in normal handheld positions...
     
  4. TreyS

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    I agree, I commented on the speed the other night while talking with my wife. Didn't know there was a software update. It was much needed.


    Also, (to the OP) which DVR do you have? My HR20 is lighting fast vs my HR22. I equate this to the larger hard drive in the HR22 but what do I know?
     
  5. LameLefty

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    Drive size has little to do with it. The HR20 uses a different chipset than the HR21/22/23 models. It has two discreet components that were combined into a single chip for the later models, helping drive costs down. As a side-effect of this engineering decision, the later units have been functionally slower at some tasks than the original.

    However, as noted, recent software updates have finally optimized the code to get some pretty good performance improvements out of the hardware.
     
  6. TreyS

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    Thanks Lame. :)
     
  7. mluntz

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    No disrespect, but are you saying I'm supposed to sacrifice picture quality to get my DVR to work right?

    That's funny! :lol:
     
  8. TreyS

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    Out of the box LCDs are usually set to "torch mode" so reducing the brightness actually makes it look better. YMMV
     
  9. CCarncross

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    Make sure your tv is properly calibrated, is really all that he is probably trying to say. They dont even come close to properly calibrated out of the box.
     
  10. Doug Brott

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    Actually, the picture looks better now so not only was the remote IR interfered, I was visually interfered .. It was a win-win.

    Oh, and if you want to keep the brightness turned way up on your LCD .. a piece of black electrical tape with a pin hole covering the IR receiver on the STB should do the trick.
     
  11. Sim-X

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    Dish network is claiming you can scroll twice as fast vs the dtv boxes.

    DVR features you can't get with DIRECTV:

    * Fly through recorded commercials with our 30-second skip button.
    * Designate a recording to a second TV while watching a live program on your main TV.
    * Share your recordings between two TVs.
    * Scroll through your channels up to 2x times faster than DIRECTV.*

    http://www.dishnetwork.com/compare/technology.aspx

    I haven't used a dishnet box is ages - how much better is it?

    I know the scroll effect comes on by default and I shot all mine off - that seems to help a lot with guide speed
     
  12. ATARI

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    The HRs have 30 second SLIP or SKIP, you get to choose.

    And, yes, turn off scrolling effects, you'll never miss them.
     
  13. Sim-X

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    Yea I enabled 30 sec skip - I like that much better than default - Was just curious if anyone has tried them side by side (with scrolling off) to compare speed
     
  14. hilmar2k

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    It's not actualy the brightness that needs to be turned down, as that is black level control. It's backlight or contrast, the latter being white level control.
     
  15. gquiring

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    My IR issue is the D* DVR HR22. I never had the issue with the SD Tivo or HD Tivo or HR20, just the HR22 is SLOW. I also have a PC running XBMC and the remote has no lag. So it's not my TV (Panny plasma). It's beyond frustrating trying to change channels or use the arrow keys in the guide or list. I don't understand how they don't properly test this stuff. It's been a problem for about a year and not one update has addressed the issue (including the one sent this week).
     
  16. 5 ACES

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    I have had this problem since day one. I used the IR option and the RF option and neither one ever solved the problem. I have noticed that if the receiver has not been used for a few hours, the channel problem seems to be worse. The latest software update did help my HR21-700, but that channel lag bug, still pop's it's ugly head every now and then!
     
  17. Rich

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    It's not your Panny plasma. I've got six of them all set the same and I experience no slowdowns at all. I had a 22-100 for a few weeks that was actually fast, in fact I've experienced no slowness issues at all except for filling up an eSATA and not refreshing it. So, I do know what a slow HR looks like. Just fill an eSATA up all the way and you'll all be able to see what a really slow HR looks like. Doesn't matter what HR, they all do the same thing with a full eSATA, at least in my experience.

    Too many members have posted about the 20-100s slowness for me to doubt them. But the one I had was just as fast as my 21-700s until it suffered a complete nervous breakdown and had to be replaced with a 23-700 which was just as fast and lasted just as long. Now I've got a 20-700 in it's place on the same feeds and it couldn't be faster.

    Rich
     
  18. VaJim

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    IMHO...in our house the 0368 update did nothing to fix the channel changing problem. :mad: The reset button has become our new friend.
     
  19. Rich

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    Try pulling the plug and leaving it unplugged for as long as you can.

    Rich
     
  20. Syzygy

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    What?? Hours, days...

    I believe that leaving the box unplugged for a minute would be sufficient. Am I wrong?

    And what about the supposed danger inherent in unplugging the box without first starting the menu shutdown sequence and letting it proceed to a blank screen?
     

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