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Why I'm about to switch to Dish

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by dkerr64, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. Nov 8, 2011 #81 of 154

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    I sometimes forget that cable is not available to everyone, especially those in real rural or "the sticks".

    I've always had "competition" available. Right now Service Electric Cablevision competes with DirecTV and Dish Network in my area. About a mile over it's Comcast. 30 miles north to Allentown, it's RCN, Service Electric and in some lucky parts, FIOS.

    Sorry about that!
  2. Nov 8, 2011 #82 of 154

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    Yep, you city dwellers forget about us out in the toolies!! :)

    Here we have Mediacom cable and in some of the other small towns here there are various other cable providers, but never more than one per area. Our largest town is maybe 20K when the students are in town for the University.

    Mediacom isn't even worth mentioning here... :(
  3. Nov 8, 2011 #83 of 154

    scsa1000 AllStar

    Feb 11, 2011
    Why I don't get dish at all there choices for ppv movies I dont get they show the inventor movie but they won't have cars 2 at all wth. They have small movies on ppv not the big sellers lol ok.
  4. Nov 9, 2011 #84 of 154

    mdavej Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    True. But you can get the big ones from Dish on disc via blockbuster, which is much cheaper per title than ppv and better quality ($10 unlimited blu-ray vs. $6 for a single movie). Not as convenient as ppv, I know, but I've never thought that convenience was worth 4 times the price of say a redbox rental. Of course I understand the need for ppv if you can't/don't get out much.
  5. Nov 9, 2011 #85 of 154

    Rasterburn Cool Member

    Nov 2, 2009
    Dak, MattScahum is correct in most cases. Here is some other things you might like to know about dish (according to their own agreement on their website). First you are comparing a piece of equipment you have had for probably 4 yrs now to brand new equipment you will get with dish upfront. You are comparing dish's new customer offer with directv regular prices after the new customer offer is done. what you should do is compare dish after discounts to directv you have now without discounts. On november 8 2011 directv launches the new interface update which will speed up the slowness.

    Secondly, the harddisk is small, compared to new dish equipment, but if you upgrade to a hr24 then you will have more space then dish. Also a little know fact, you can hook up a external hard-drive on your hddvr with dtv for free while if you hook one up with Dish you have an External Hard Drive Activation Fee of $39.99 a one time charge if you have a ViP receiver and you choose to connect an external hard drive to that receiver.

    Third, tehcnically a Nomad is a slingbox since the purpose of a slingbox is to allow you to to watch your cable TV when we're away from home. And it allows you to do that even if its recordings and not live tv. Also some customers with Dish can pay or have paid upto $200 one time fee to activate the sling system.

    Fourth, Direct2PC is actually being blocked because of Mactv and apple trying to go to that for the las 4yrs, plus most people dont use macs, so of course Windows was first it makes more business sense, but guess what Dish doesnt have anything like this either so what was your point in the first place.

    Lastly, lets really talk HD. Dish has BBC America HD, Cooking Channel HD, E! Entertainment Television HD, Lifetime Movie Network HD, Nat Geo HD, TLC HD, and G4 HD to name a few that Directv doesnt have right now. On Dish, Big Ten Network HD * = Available in: Ohio, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska and sections of Pennsylvania and Indiana, no where else. But Dish is also missing the following that Directv has @MAX HD, ESPNU HD, SHOWTIME Beyond HD, SHOWTIME Extreme HD, ABC Family HD Fuel TV HD, SHOWTIME Next HD, Audience Network (prev. 101 Network), HD GolTV HD, SHOWTIME Women HD, Mega TV HD, Smithsonian Channel HD, MoreMAX HD, Starz Cinema HD, Disney Channel HD, Starz InBlack HD, Disney XD HD, ThrillerMAX HD, ESPNews HD, and WMAX (WomensMAX) HD. The problem is not with Directv or Dish, the problem is who owns the chs and what deals do they have with each company.

    Also, call the retention department for Directv if you are still with them and see what upgrades you can get. Most time they will help you if you are a good customer. And what I mean by "good customer" is do you pay on time? do you currently not have lots of credits given to you. every company takes this into effect and looks at this.
  6. Nov 9, 2011 #86 of 154

    mdavej Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    Good points. No doubt D* has Dish beaten on sports and premiums, just as Dish has D* beaten on basics. But the sling info isn't quite right.

    Last time I checked, the sling adapter and service was free and didn't require you to pull your recordings off ahead of time. So while Nomad is cool and quite useful, it's no sling.

    Sling is also Dish's answer to Direct2PC, which works fine on Mac and always has. There are a lot of Mac users that would love to have something like Direct2PC. But then they'd have to rename it Direct2Mac ;)
  7. Nov 9, 2011 #87 of 154

    dishrich Hall Of Fame

    Apr 23, 2002
    Yea, but adding an external hd to the DirecTV DVR's replaces the internal one - while on DISH, you can quickly archive things from the internal drive to the external one. And in order to swap drives on DirecTV, you have to reboot the DVR each time to do this, so it's NOT really a practical way to get more space.
    Also, any external drives you use on DirecTV will ONLY work on that specific DVR, while any hd's you use on DISH can be moved amongst any other DVR's on your account. (you can also move them to any 211's on your account, as long as you have paid the $40 hard drive enabling fee)

    This is ONLY if you turn a 211 into a DVR; there is NO longer a charge to add EHD's to any of the ViP DVR's

    DISH also has a deal for a FREE Sling w/the 722 DVR
  8. Nov 9, 2011 #88 of 154

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    I snipped and seperated, here's some clarification to this rather long bunch of misinformation...

    Dish hasn't had a fee for adding a hard disk to the Vip series for quite some time now. The only fee like it is the one-time/per account of $39.99 to add a hard drive to a Vip211, which is a receiver but which then becomes a DVR. All the other Vip HDDVRs can use the freely connectable external HD as a sneaker net if they want, AND that hard drive data is good even with a HDDVR swap out since it is tied to the account, not the receiver itself. Big plus for Dish on this method.

    And yes, I'm sure some customers in the past paid up to $200 for a Sling for their Dish equipment. But the majority that actually paid, only paid $99 and now it is free with rebate.

    And no, Apple is not blocking Direct from making Direct2PC work on the Mac. That is solely Direct's decision not to support the Mac. BTW, Dish does have an app that does the exact things that Direct2PC does, but does it on an iPad.

    Glad I could clear that up! :)
  9. Nov 9, 2011 #89 of 154

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    I strongly disagree. If there was only one satellite provider, that would be bad for everyone. We could no longer threaten to drop DirecTV and go to Dish (or vice versa). I for one like the fact that DirecTV puts more emphasis on sports and Dish puts more emphasis on channels that I never watch. That way, I have a choice. I rarely watch movies or any of the "basic" channels that DirecTV does not have in HD. The only channel I really want in HD that I do not have (and no one else has, yet, either) is Universal Sports (although DIY and Cooking would be nice, but I can wait for those); therefore, I am very satisfied with DirecTV. If I really cared about BBCA, or any of the other "basic" channels that DirecTV does not have in HD, I would go to Dish, but I do not miss those channels, so I am not about to switch.

    I live in a fairly large metro area, but my only other option is TWC, and I left them for DirecTV more than 15 years ago. Because of franchicing deals that the city and county made, we do not have a choice of cable companies, and we do not get UVerse or Fios, so it is DirecTV, Dish, or TWC. If DirecTV and Dish were to merge, my choice decreases by a third. Reduced choice is never a good situation.
  10. Nov 21, 2011 #90 of 154

    wchaffin New Member

    Nov 21, 2011
    the hr20 is a slow box ....but many things will make it sluggish your satelite signal strengths lots of installers didnt dither the ka/ku dish and if its not set right the box will crawl also check the hd setting set the native to off this will speed up channel changing. If your signal strengths are low maybe call in and have your dish serviced.
  11. Nov 22, 2011 #91 of 154

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    Unless you're on the ragged edge of alignment where signal drops out fairly frequently, this probably isn't the issue.

    More likely the issues are these:

    1. Most HR2x receivers change channels relatively slowly
    2. Native is enabled
  12. Nov 22, 2011 #92 of 154

    tulanejosh Godfather

    May 23, 2008
    Brother - all this is fixable...

    - Slow Interface: get a new dvr (i got one for free last month as a thank you gift for renewing my contract); Also - HD GUI has enormous performance upgrades baked in.
    - Small HD: See comment above
    - Sling: Go buy a sling box. I did. It works fine on computer and my iphones.
    - Nomad: If you have a ling - you don't need Nomad. and Sling streams live.
    - Directv2PC works on my Mac. Has for years. You just need to download eyeconnect. But again - if you have a SLING BOX, you don't need Directv2PC.
    - BBC America - you got me there. They dont have it.
  13. Nov 22, 2011 #93 of 154

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    Does Sling do offline? That's where Nomad is at its best, it doesn't eat into data limits, works where there is no Internet available, or is more expensive than you want to pay, or too slow.
  14. Nov 23, 2011 #94 of 154

    xmguy Active Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Middle, TN
    Me too. If its in 4:3 then I have my HDTV set to same. I HATE seeing the image stretched out.
  15. May 22, 2012 #95 of 154

    dkerr64 New Member

    Oct 10, 2011
    Well, 6 months has passed since I originally seriously considered switching from DirecTV to Dish. This weekend I did it. They had given me a $20 monthly credit after I first called, and it expired. When I called back they quickly reinstated the discount, but could not address the lack of BBCA in HD nor the lack of an equivalent to Sling (Nomad is not the same, and I bought a Monsoon Vulkano, but it is not the same as an integrated solution)

    So I have moved to Dish, one of their new Hopper DVR boxes with Sling adapter. From my POV a far superior DVR box than anything DTV have. But seriously that is secondary to the lack of BBCA in HD. It has been almost 2 years since HD was available on BBCA and every other provider (for me) now has it... Comcast, AT&T, Dish. I really don't understand why DTV is dragging their feet on this one, had the BBCA in HD I would not have cancelled service.

  16. May 22, 2012 #96 of 154

    Blankman2k5 Legend

    Oct 20, 2010

    I hope you enjoy Dish Network, good luck with your new service and I sincerely hope it works out for you.
  17. May 22, 2012 #97 of 154

    inf0z Legend

    Oct 15, 2011
    Can I have your stuff when you quit?
  18. May 22, 2012 #98 of 154

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    Good luck with your choice. Personally, BBCA in HD means nothing to me, nor does the ability to record all of the major networks' prime time offerings. There were five shows on the major networks that we watch, but two of them have been cancelled as of the end of the season, so that leaves only three. For me, recording all of the prime time network programs would be a complete waste of disk space. I am still waiting for Universal Sports in HD, but no one has that yet.
  19. May 22, 2012 #99 of 154
    Marlin Guy

    Marlin Guy Hall Of Fame

    Apr 8, 2009
    PTAT is easily turned off. No big deal.
  20. underlord2

    underlord2 AllStar

    Dec 1, 2006
    It's nice you're happy with dish! How the boxes treating you speed wise?

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