Why New Hopper 3 Remote Sucks - It has a fatal flaw

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by fwampler, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. xfoneguy

    xfoneguy Mentor

    Feb 1, 2006
    The new remote has a nice "feel" but I prefer the fewer buttons needed to get where I'm going with the old 40.0 remote. My solution is to have BOTH remotes paired with my H3 - works well for me anyway.
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  2. 4HiMarks

    4HiMarks Hall Of Fame

    Jan 21, 2004
    Laurel, MD
    I'm with you. I currently have the new one by the couch, and the old one by my desk chair behind the couch, but I may very well swap them.
  3. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    I've got both the old and new remote, didn't like the new one at first. Now it is the one I use all the time. Yeah, a bit more fiddly, but not enough to lose sleep over.

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  4. daryllafferty

    daryllafferty New Member

    Apr 15, 2006
    Do all the buttons on the old remote work with the Hopper 3?

    -- Do the color buttons have the same features? (e.g. Green for Closed Caption, Blue for Delete?, etc.)
    -- Does the stop button immediately stop the program being played?
    -- Will the "Skip Forward" button advance by one frame when paused?

    I let the installer take my old remote, and now I regret it. Maybe I'll buy another one on Amazon if these features work.
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  5. wje

    wje Godfather

    Mar 8, 2006
    New England
    I solved the problem by not using either Dish remote. :)
    Really, if you want buttons to stay where they are, and want to customize behavior, get a Harmony.
    I did have to jump through some hoops to get my Harmony to work, even though Logitech support assured me it worked perfectly, all the other customer comments saying the opposite notwithstanding. Basically, if you pick H3 config, it doesn't work, pick H1.

    As for the older remote with the color keys, yes, works fine. Again, that's what I'm emulating with my Harmony (which also has color keys). Will this continue in the future? Hard to tell. The new remote seems to have just moved the color keys and renamed them to the operations they performed, those buttons still send the same control codes.
  6. davethestalker

    davethestalker Godfather

    Sep 16, 2006
    IMG_8490.JPG I recently had a tech come out for a service call to install an extension to get the dish up higher. Snow is a MAJOR issue, it climbs up the antenna when it reaches the bottom. The last snow we had, the LNBs started getting covered. Of course they don't allow techs to install the 6" extension any longer. Another reason trying DTV two years ago was a mistake.

    I was talking to the tech about the voice remote touchpad starting to fail (since October) and remarking about how uncomfortable it (and the other H3 remote) is in hand compared to the old DISH remotes. He went out to the truck and grabbed one! Having 2 zones feels more natural. The remote just feels better in my hand. The voice remote is FANTASTIC for searching and that's about it. So, that's what I use it for.

    Yes, that black & white Genie remote is the worst piece of technology ever invented!!! Almost daily either the volume accidentally went up/down or a channel went up/down by simply grabbing the remote! Putting raised toggle switches right in the middle, pure genius right there!

    I missed you old friend!
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2017
  7. winstars

    winstars New Member

    Jul 2, 2014

    Can I use the old 40.0 remote with my Joeys or just the Hopper 3???

  8. fudpucker

    fudpucker Godfather

    Jul 23, 2007
    NW Iowa
    You can use the 40 with the Joeys. I have two Joeys and a Hopper 3 and I decided to go to the 40 remote for all of them. I tried the new voice remote, and it was cool technology, but at the end of the day, my wife and I both prefer having a discrete button for all the functions. It's surprising, for example, how many times for some reason we can't understand what someone is saying on a show, we rewind, hit the green button, watch the closed captions (and say "Ohhhhh!") and then simply hit the green button again and the CCs are off. The 40 simply has a button for everything, and I prefer that.
  9. jhsanchez

    jhsanchez Legend

    Feb 4, 2006
    Tucson AZ
    How about a record button too!
  10. patmurphey

    patmurphey Godfather

    Dec 21, 2006
    This thread is nonsense, especially the title. If you don't like the 52 remote, get a "big" 40 and have button for everything. All commands are available with the 52, but might take an extra step or two as the price for a compact design. Learn the steps, most are simple, like hitting select or option and picking your command.
  11. winstars

    winstars New Member

    Jul 2, 2014

    I also ordered and then received the voice remote yesterday. Its kind of cool and having an Apple TV 4 I am used to swiping gestures. The voice search is very accurate. Backlight feature is very cool.

    But the shape of the 40 seems to fit my hand better. I will have both the voice remote and 40 out and see what happens. At the very least I have spares now!

    I just got the Hopper 3 and 2 Joeys after upgrading from 722k and 612's, and I think having to purchase the voice remote for $30 instead of just getting it with the new equipment (or having a choice between the 50 or 52) is/was a bit of nickel and dime BS for Dish...

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