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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Mike Greer, Jul 15, 2010.
Did you not read the first two sentences in the post that you quoted? :shrug:
I don't find his position extreme at all. There is no way I would allow anyone I know to order DirecTV or a new receiver without advising them to demand the 24 seriesr receivers. Anything else is letting them get less value for their money.
:scratchin .. no one here has stated that the HR22 is faster than the HR24 .. OR .. that the HR24 is NOT faster than the HR22. No one has called you a "fool." Even you agree that "95% of customers won't know the difference and most won't care." Stick with the 95% and stop calling the 5% the "everyone" and I think you'll be on the same page as folks in this thread.
Oh the drama
Which swing are you talking about?
I didn't use "extreme" until he swung the other way.
He much earlier replied to me that he would "shade" his position to reflect some of our posts trying to bring his posting a bit more center than he'd started out.
I'm not an expert on bipolar but the mood swings in this thread suggest something like that.
No one has ever denied some users are having slower response from their receivers, while other have "merely" pointed out not all of us have this problem.
Where is it that both sides can't be factual and true. This isn't a mutually exclusive condition.
From the start of the thread and all throughout, he has asked what was wrong with letting everyone know that 24s are superior and that as a paying, committing user, that is what you should demand? I agree with that philosophy completely.
Furthermore, those who are attempting to down-play the differences now, after so proudly extolling them in the early days and the first-look release, are doing a legitimate disservice to the community of users here and potential passer-bys. Since many of those same users also happen to share a more "mutually beneficial" relationship with DirecTV, I also don't find it totally out of line to question their motives for doing so.
As a more "technically inclined" person, I am often asked for my opinion or impression of various products by family and friends. Never once have I thought to tell someone to take the lesser value of their options because they might not know any better, I might as well tell them to just go by what the salesman tells them.
Most accurate post to date here.
I'm curious to make sure I'm on the same page what exactly is everyone saying that is so much faster with the HR24's? To be honest I've got 2 HR23's and 1 HR22 and i've never had any trouble with them at all. They're not slow other than sometimes changing channels from SD to HD. All the functions are really quick. I'm basically wanting to know if it is something overall with the receiver exactly or just individual processes that I may not even access that is quicker. I guess I'm not sure what is so much quicker because I don't have any trouble changing channels all my receivers always respond every time I go to change it, I can always do the one touch recording, and absolutly no slowness in responding.
HR24 - the natural male enhancement.
Huh. I just found this thread. Wonder how I missed it. Haven't read but a few posts and it looks like I missed all the fun. Let me guess: Mike has three 22-100s that are pathetically slow and now he's got a 24 that actually works as they all should. How shocking that someone should have problems with a 100 (haven't tried a 24-100, don't jump on me yet). So who's to blame for Mike's slow 22s? D*? They sent out the specs for the 100 series to all the fine folks that have made them over the years. Can't really blame the manufacturers.
When Mike started complaining about his 22s I thought he was a tad extreme, but you gotta admit he has stuck to his guns. I admire that. No waffling, no changing stories, no lies, just his outraged opinion. And I believe him. You should all think of how badly we got hosed by the 21 series. The 20-700 should have been followed by better HRs, not the 21s, but something akin to the 24-500 (I do have one of them). D* had those 21s made to their specifications and they probably knew that they would not be up to the 20-700's standards.
Consider that now, after the HR24-500 has had a number of software updates under its belt, that it isn't as much faster as it once was. Software can do that to a device. Ask anyone who had upgraded their iPhone 3G to iOS4 or had a few security updates to their computer operating system.
When it comes to speed, there is also the issue of what you're used to and after you've gone faster/quicker for a while, it becomes "the new standard".
Surely there is a cadre of those giving a decided apologist view with respect to DIRECTV's offerings depending on availability and weather. At the same time, I feel compelled to note that at least for some, the overly rose colored return volleys seem to have decidedly moderated.
I think most are in agreement that they can't get the old refurbs out of the system fast enough, but it is something that must be done. Outside of the ones that seem to get the "new shipping box" refurb treatment, nobody is going to suffer horribly if they get a "lesser" model. A few of those lesser models actually have some attractive attributes (ie better RF remote performance).
That post simply makes waaaaay too much sense.
OK boys .. get a room. Let's keep this clean, please.
And here is a snapshot of the whole thing.
One user has a poor experience and another doesn't.
I'm not trying to change the mindset of the first. I've read many posts about this.
What I don't understand about those that have the mindset of the first, is why they can't fathom that some don't have the same experience as the second poster states.
This "issue" isn't absolute white or absolute black, yet a couple of posters have taken this position, which is false.
One side is saying it's gray, as some work fine and we know others haven't, and the other side is staying firm that there is no gray and it's completely black and anyone that says otherwise has some hidden relationship with DirecTV.
Clearly there is no room for any meaningful discussion when one side is so fixed/stubborn/unrealistic.
What have you done with the real Harsh? And is he ok?
Wait...on second thought, let's keep you instead.
I smell a Dish to DirecTV conversion.... :lol:
But I have enjoyed and welcomed the most recent content.
Throughout my day, I see HR20s to HR24s and everything in between.
Is there a difference in speed? Yes.
Does it adversely affect the use of them? From what I've seen no. I adapt to the enviroment. When using a "slower" model (take your pick), I adjust how fast I enter the keys on the remote. It's not that hard. Keep doing rapid fire keypresses and expecting different results each time is just insane.
Getting this bent out of shape over something that is controllable and insignificant can't be healthy on a person either.
It's only TV.
I'm sure it has something to do with the new Priceline television ad.
:lol: I thought the same thing.
I was about to say, "Harsh, I don't think I've ever typed this to you...Well said, +1."