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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Mike Greer, Jul 15, 2010.
You're negotiating a new DirecTV subscriber deal?
Won't be long before this thread fails a CRC Check.
Way back, I did offer to take one of Mike's 22s into my home and run it on my system and see if it was slow on my system too. Never got far with that for various reasons.
This is pretty much it right here. :righton:
Oh goody, now we're gonna start speaking in tongues!!! :lol:
The only moderately believable posts that I have seen regarding the "experience" differences you describe are those that acknowledge the issues that are present but indicate that either they don't normally use the device in a manner that would make it an issue (direct channel entry), or that they are not generally bothered by it (scrolling).
When one side consistently diminishes any thread topic that has a negative connotation, either passively or aggressively, there can be no honest discussion. This thread IS a black and white topic. The only answer to Mike's original post is:
"NOTHING. The HR24 is a superior piece of hardware to the previous receivers. Everyone should look out for their friends, family and fellow BBS members and make sure they know how to get the best for their dollar."
Instead, the usual crowd chimed in and tried to dismiss the idea as silly and unneeded. With even moderators of this site attempting to all but discount any appreciable difference in the units.
With that, I think I am now officially done. I had taken a brief hiatus for while to see if things would change here and only returned to share my own story about how to make sure you get an HR24 in the other thread. They have changed a little, but not for the better.
Thanks to everyone who helped with technical things along the way and to those who were willing to engage in honest debates about other things.
There's nothing wrong with being stubborn when you're right.
Then again...."right" is in the eyes of the beholder...
There are usually at least 2 views on any topic, and they may both be right (to at least some degree).
Come on, now, group hug.
Carl to Mike:
I love you, dude.
< tear >
I have no idea of where "I fit" into your view of this.
You still seem "fixed" that your view is the only view anyone can have, yet others have different experiences with their units, as I do.
"stubborn" isn't always "right" and may blind someone to the truth.
I've found some good in all this...
I have verified that 21 names doesn't exceed the limit of the Ignore list.
More like "Blowin' In The Wind".
I have been both amused and astonished at this thread.
Let's play with some numbers and make some educated guesses. If folks have better numbers feel free to plug them in to make your point.
There appear to be approximately 81,000 members to DBSTalk. Let's assume that there are lurkers that don't belong but read the forums, so double the 81,000 to 162,000. Let's generously assume that 70% of them are D* customers. That get's us down to approximately 113,000 members/lurkers. Let's also assume that 60% of them have DVR's. That gets us down to 68,000. Of those 68,000 let's assume that 70% are either happy with their system or are on existing contracts, which gets the remainder down to about 20,000. Of those 20,000 lets also assume that 30% already bought or acquired HR24's, leaving about 14,000 people that are left and otherwise not accounted for in this estimate.
The last that I read D* had approximately 18,000,000 subscribers. My point is that advertising the argument on this thread is woefully ineffective to the subscriber base. So, why don't you take out a half page ad in USA Today or place some ads on CNN, Fox News, SyFy Channel, etc. Your now informed base would certainly grow larger based on the advertising.
I think that my point in all of this is that this thread is a rant. D* can equip folks as it sees fit. They don't promise everyone HR24's or H24's in their advertising. If folks don't like their equipment they can choose to go elsewhere with their entertainment dollars, but based on how many seem to come back to D*, or else sign up for D* after having other home entertainment options, it certainly seems like D* is at least one of the best options for their money. They can, if they choose, obtain a Hx24 for lease through retail channels for less than $200.00 if they choose to do so. Most folks seem to opt not to do so because they are basically satisfied with their systems/equipment.
I pulled some comparison numbers off of my HR24-500/HR23-700 comparison video:
Show My Playlist top-to-bottom
HR23-700: 32.5 seconds
HR24-500: 12.5 seconds
So clearly some improvement between the two. I didn't run any other set that could be easily timed.
Thanks Doug, that, to me shows what I'm talking about. The HR23-700 'hanging up' while you scroll through the guide is the kind of thing I get with my HR22s. Doing the same thing is even worse if you scroll forward in time through the guide and then try to record something. You never know if it 'missed' your button press to record so you hit it again and then it catches up and you have to start over. If you wait, thinking it just needs to catch up, sometimes it does sometimes you have to hit record again because it really did miss your 'R' button....
Thanks for your concern! Wait, how did you know I was on meds?
Thanks - still waiting for him to explain the upgrade - I think most people know the only 'upgrade' was the larger drives.... The other changes were downgrades likely to save money.