Yes – anyone who has an HR24 and another model knows but the new subscribers won’t know until after they have the 2 year contract in place along with their bent up ‘refurb’ HR22. Yep – plenty of reports here on the speed increase when going to an HR24. Comparing the HR21/22/23 to a an HR24 would be more useful than comparing the HR20s to HR24s but that would show how bad the HR21/22/23 really are and we can’t be critical of DirecTV now can we? As far as Dish Network goes – they have issues, as do all providers, but ‘speed’ isn’t a worry for them. The 4 year old 622 is as fast as or faster than the HR24 is today. I wouldn’t expect you to consider them… That would be like the Pope preaching from the Qur’an. Don’t see that happening under any circumstance. I would have moved to another provider if I would have done my homework on the HR2x line before I had paid for the lease privilege on 3 HR22s. I also can’t get Sunday Ticket anywhere else either. Now DirecTV has managed to get me to spend big bucks to get HR24s and start a new 2 year commitment. You’ll be stuck with me for the foreseeable future! My repeated threads and posts are driven more by people trying to pretend the HR21/22/23s are ‘fast enough’ and that if someone has problems it is their problem not DirecTV’s problem. For the matter nothing gets my typing faster than people that are incapable of criticizing DirecTV regardless of the facts.