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Why not tell the world to get HR24s?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Mike Greer, Jul 15, 2010.

  1. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    That's a very true statement.

    The HR24 demand has certainly outweighed the supply...causing some shortages. In addition, the related equipment exchange process and inventory must be pretty brisk. I don't see HR20's going back to the field as much.
     
  2. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    This thread reminds me of a time long ago ....

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  3. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah...we have an all-star cast of characters here all right... :lol::lol::lol:

    P.S....I love that commercial!
     
  4. TITAN_53

    TITAN_53 Godfather

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    Mike,
    I have an HR20, 21 and two 22's. I've used the 22's in both of my main viewing rooms, by choice. While admittedly a little slower than the HR20 they were both fast enough FOR ME. Nobody is saying there isn't speed differences between the units. What you fail to get though is that YOU aren't the benchmark for whether or not these units are PERCEIVED slow by everyone else. Perception is reality.
     
  5. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    Not since post #76 in this thread anyway. ;)
     
  6. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Roger that. :D

    Based on having the HR24-500, and now HR24-100...they seem to be looking to have more inventory going out to attempt to meet the demand.

    There is little doubt the HR24 is the best HD DVR they have released to date, so everyone (or nearly everyone) wants one. Over time, I suspect we'll see more and more of the HR20's "permanently" retired. As long as the other units support 3D, as well as SWiM & DECA (for WHDS)...they'll probably be in play for some time.
     
  7. Fish Man

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    Personally, I like the built in OTA tuners in my old, trusty HR20s. No need for an outboard AM21. It's worth the slower response to the remote, IMHO.

    Different strokes, eh?
     
  8. hasan

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    There are issues with all the HR boxes. They come and go (for me). None of them (or any other electronic device of some sophistication) work perfectly all the time. A new box, like the HR24 is likely to have its own set of problems. Some are real problems, some are merely preferences of users.

    From what I have seen of my non-HR24s, they are doing fine (with their associated problems), because I don't expect them to be absolutely perfect. As long as they stay in "development" and I can use them effectively, I'm happy.

    So far, both of these conditions are being met.
     
  9. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.

    I had 2 HR20-700's for almost 4 years...solid performers and great OTA. At this time, my need for OTA has pretty much vanished...but I have an AM-21 as needed.
     
  10. RunnerFL

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    That in itself is an immature stunt. We as customers aren't in a position to make demands of DirecTV. When you signed up with DirecTV you agreed to their policies, you didn't sign an agreement that said you could haggle on everything. Their policy is "you get what you get" and if you don't like the company's policies then don't do business with the company, it's that simple.

    I agree that the installers shouldn't have to pay. That's why it ticks me off so much to see people saying they are sending installers away just because they're not getting an HR24... It's stupid, self-centered and immature to send installers away for that reason.

    You have proof that DirecTV sabotaged the production of these receivers and purposely made them as slow and unresponsive as you claim? If so I'd say you have a potential lawsuit.

    I have no speed issues with either of my HR21's at all. Are they slower than my HR24? Yes... Are they as slow and unresponsive as you claim they are? No...
     
  11. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Amen!
     
  12. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    I have no problems criticizing DirecTV when warranted but the fact of the matter is that the majority of us have not had the issues you claim you have had. We're not just saying that because we love DirecTV, we're saying that because we haven't had the problems. When will you get that??
     
  13. hasan

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    I have had my HR20-700 take 7 seconds to change screens, when something else is monopolizing the processor. It doesn't happen often, but I'm not hallucinating, either. Most of the time it is downright snappy, and I sense no "extra waiting time" for something to happen.

    This occasional "long wait" is not sufficient for me to spend any out of pocket money to get a different unit. Sooner (rather than later), it is bound to fail, and at that time, I'll try to get the best unit available. With the Protection Plan, who knows what they will send me, but instead of engaging in pointless speculation, I'll just use this old beast until it fails, and do my best to enjoy what it does.:)
     
  14. RunnerFL

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    I actually have an HR20-700 I was told not to send back. It's going to sit here just in case they decide they didn't tell me that too. :lol:
     
  15. RunnerFL

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    <radio>... I got you babe...</radio>
     
  16. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    According to a previous post you spent $600 getting rid of them and replacing them with HR24's. Since you don't have them anymore I think it's safe to say you can stop bitching. :)
     
  17. veryoldschool

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    [another reality check]

    Everyone gets to post their thoughts, so let's not start going down this path. Whether you agree with them or not, they have the right to post. If you don't agree, "hey you too" get to post.
     
  18. hdtvfan0001

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    ...ergo....post #99. ;):D
     
  19. Doug Brott

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    Hmmm .. "slow" really is relative. The HR20-23 are not as snappy as the HR24. This is true. But at the same time, it's not like they are 5 times worse. Even in the worst case test with the HR20s it was 50% slower .. 9 seconds to complete a sequence vs. 6 seconds. Many of the tests were only a few percentage points away - comparing today's technology with 3 years ago.

    Much of the "slow" talk started when the remote sequences were having some issues. That problem has generally been corrected at this point and what we see today are real hardware based difference. Folks that use a DVR to record and then view programming .. essentially pressing {LIST} more often than {GUIDE} or {CHANNEL UP/DOWN} is probably generally happy with the performance of the older boxes.

    Ah .. So you want to shout out to folks that they should get the HR24 instead of the HR20-23 .. To that I say .. "OK, knock yourself out!" you are more than welcome to preach the virtues of the HR24 over the earlier boxes .. heck, I think you'll find that some of the "people" you are referring to have also done that exact same thing in places.

    The only suggestion I've seen in this thread is folks simply saying "Why do I (the poster) have to preach the virtues of the HR24 when I (the poster) think that many people will find value in the older boxes?"

    Your anger (OK, perhaps it's perceived anger) is in the fact that we as a collective forum aren't doing what you personally want to do. To that I say, everyone here is free to think differently on that and we do not need to ram something down folks throats. Sure, the HR24 is faster .. but I just added 2 HR20s to my parents setup (replacing 2 R15s) and you know what? 3 months later, they're still happy with the setup. It's possible that the older receivers are fine in many situations. Not everyone HAS to have a 24, but fore those that do .. help 'em out and give them pointers on ways to achieve that.
     
  20. TITAN_53

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    EXACTLY! Most people think I drive too fast but I don't think I drive fast enough most of the time. Who's wrong? Neither, it's called an opinion and everyone is entitled to their own.

    The 2 facts here are the HR24's are faster but, going off of the number of HDDVR customers Directv has, obviously most people don't have a big enough issue with the speed of the other models for it to matter all the much. I know MOST normal customers (we aren't the normal ones) wouldn't put up with the horrible experience that Mike seems to have had.
     

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