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Why your local channel isn't in HD and who to complain to!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by noneroy, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. Apr 4, 2007 #81 of 304
    sp1dey

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    I noticed on Lin's website, they inked a deal with Cox Cable on 3/1. While it doesn't help us with DirecTV, it offers some hope that an eventual deal may come about.

    Keep emailing and calling you LIN affiliates and DirecTV!!!!
     
  2. Apr 4, 2007 #82 of 304
    Newshawk

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    Not really, if Cox either paid money or promised to carry subchannels as part of the deal-I don't think D* would do such a deal.
     
  3. Apr 4, 2007 #83 of 304
    RAD

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    I asked our local LIN station if there was any news on D* getting LIN stations, their response:

    "On the DirecTV agreement, we have a new person at the corporate level charged with moving this forward and I was able to speak to her directly last week. For the first time in a couple years I feel we have been able to communicate how important this is to us and our viewers and am optimistic that we can resolve it in a couple months."

    So MAYBE there is some light at the end of the tunnel.
     
  4. Apr 5, 2007 #84 of 304
    noneroy

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    Just updated LIN's channels to reflect that WIVB in Buffalo isn't in HD on D* (how will you see the Bills lose in 1080i if it isn't carried?! :)

    I like the above comments about LIN maybe getting their act together soon, but I won't hold my breath. However, LIN now has 5 stations not carried. That's kinda sad...

    As always, if i'm missing anything in the main post, please PM me!

    Cheers.
     
  5. Apr 14, 2007 #85 of 304
    auribe14@mac.com

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    Yeah, hard to believe that at this point anyone (hint, hint LIN) thinks they are going to be the ones to change DirecTV's mind about doing something different in regards to paying for carriage or adding sub-channels.
     
  6. Apr 17, 2007 #86 of 304
    sp1dey

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    Not sure it does much good, but I advise anyone, especially those held hostage by LIN to contact them, DirecTV, and your local affiliate as much as possible. I'm only one viewer but I've basically been telling WTNH (ABC - Hartford/New Haven) that I've flipped my OTA antenna north and I'm now a WGGB (ABC - Springfield, MA) viewer. I'm much closer to this tower and am no longer supporting LIN (WGGB is Sinclair). This stupid ABC issue is the only reason my OTA antenna is still on the roof.
     
  7. Apr 18, 2007 #87 of 304
    Jon D

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    At least you're in antenna range. Down in the New London area I can't pick up anything on an antenna other than PBS which is basically worthless. At least there really isn't anything worth watching on ABC this time of year. I've actually taken channel 8 out of my favorites list until the HD one shows up. But, I too, have been screaming at LIN and WTNH.
     
  8. Apr 19, 2007 #88 of 304
    mrjim

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    Please add this for Milwaukee - WDJT (CBS)

    Station Information
    WDJT-TV CBS58
    809 S. 60th Street
    Milwaukee, WI 53214
    Phone: (414) 777-5800
    Fax: (414) 777-5802
    URL: http://www.cbs58.com/ this is the station in Milwaukee

    Weigel Broadcasting ownes this station also

    URL: http://www.wciu.com/ is for Chicago channel 26

    Thanks for your information.
     
  9. Apr 20, 2007 #89 of 304
    Fish Man

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    Another uncarried HD channel to add (New Orleans DMA):

    Fox 8 WVUE-TV
    1025 S. Jefferson Davis Parkway
    New Orleans, LA 70125

    Phone: 504-486-6161

    Owner:

    Emmis Communications

    The problem may be that Emmis began to sell off all of their TV stations a couple of years ago and WVUE remains the only one as-yet unsold. They've probably opted to focus on getting the station sold and let the new owner negotiate with DirecTV.

    Ironically, even though Emmis is trying to dump WVUE, they've not financially neglected the station itself.

    Since putting it up for sale they've paid for extensive remodeling of their business offices and studios, numerous upgrades to their HD technology (including the ability to put "crawls" on the HD signal, not having to down-rez to SD for weather warning crawls, etc), and HD local news "coming in a few weeks" according to the station. ("Wheel of Fortune" and other syndicated shows going to HD at about the same time, according to the station.)
     
  10. May 9, 2007 #90 of 304
    noneroy

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    *sigh* another update, more LIN stations not added. Seriously, with the two from Providence, I figured I might as well take the short time to alphabetize the towns, as the list seems to be getting longer, not shorter.

    I cannot possibly see how it is not in LIN's best interest to have these channels in HD. I simply don't watch the Indy CBS channel (except with football, but that's a whole other thing). They are missing some Ad Dollars here. I don't see why a vast majority of companies can play ball, but these guys have to be the pains in the arse that they are.

    I urge everyone who has D* that is lacking a LIN own-ed TV station to call again and complain. Be polite, but we need to make sure our voices are continually heard.
     
  11. May 11, 2007 #91 of 304
    noneroy

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    I wanted to post this since it's on topic. This is a verbatim quote that I think shows the point of view that LIN has over HD carriage. (NOTE: HIS VIEW IS NOT AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT SO IT MAY ***NOT*** BE WHAT THEY THINK EITHER!!) This is from an engineer at WISH-TV in Indianapolis. He's a really good guy who does a heck of a job answering people's questions and helping out. Honestly, we should all be so lucky to have engineers lurk on message boards and helping out. So please don't attack the guy, he's actually very nice. :D But I think this puts to rest what the dispute is.

    My only 'thoughts' is that it seems like LIN has reached deal with other people to carry their signal just fine. What is it about D* that makes it special?

    It's interesting, there are more and more people in the Indy area bitching about LIN and WISH not being on D*. So much so that he felt compelled to write something. I'd say keep calling the parent companies and maybe even the local stations. I they are at least hearing us.
     
  12. May 11, 2007 #92 of 304
    noneroy

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    PS - Last time I checked it was E* who charged for local channels....
     
  13. May 11, 2007 #93 of 304
    RAD

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    Continuing along with the hardware store story:

    - There are two competing hardware stores in the story, so there is some competion going on. But LIN is the only hardware store in town in a number of cities so they can decide to do whatever they want, the customers don't have any options.

    - The government gave LIN the hardware store for free and allows them to make money from selling hardware.
     
  14. May 12, 2007 #94 of 304
    Newshawk

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    Your engineer friend's analogy falls apart in one crucial area. He says:

    This assumes that the person getting the "hammer" (the viewer) has no idea that it is the "hardware store" (WISH) that is providing the hammer, that the "delivery service" (D*) is passing itself off as the source of the "hammer" (programming). In fact, WISH is identified as the provider of the programming at all times and D* has no presence on the channel.

    A much better analogy would be that D* is a bus line bringing customers to LIN's store to pick up the free hammer. LIN's owners want not only the money they are paid for giving out the hammer (the commercials they sell), they also want the bus line to pay them a fee for bringing customers to their store. When seen this way, it is sheer insanity to ask D* (or E* or any cable company) to pay LIN to deliver customers to their advertising that they have been well compensated for.

    It all comes down to this: as my Intro to Broadcasting professor said on day one, "The sole purpose of American commercial broadcast television is to deliver the largest numer of eyeballs to a certain point in time so an advertiser can present his message." If LIN can't make money doing that, and has to extort money from cable and DBS, then they don't deserve to be in business any more.
     
  15. May 12, 2007 #95 of 304
    Newshawk

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    Technically speaking, D*, E* and cable all charge for local channels. D* and cable build it in to the base package cost, and E* hides it as an extra cost so they can artifically lower their prices. In D*'s case, the difference between having local channels and not having them is only $3.00. In E*'s case, the locals is a $5.00 add-on. Cable usually doesn't allow you to have a package without locals.
     
  16. May 12, 2007 #96 of 304
    RxMan1

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    Who do I call to complain about my SD locals not being included? Hell, HD would be nice, but ya got to start somewhere. Lubbock, TX and surrounding area. Population 250,000+. DMA 147. DISH has carried the locals for over 2 years now.
     
  17. May 13, 2007 #97 of 304
    Newshawk

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    D* is committed to carrying all 212 LiL markets by 2008 (when in '08 I don't know right now), so a bit more patience would be called for...
     
  18. May 13, 2007 #98 of 304
    machavez00

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    I believe this is due to the FCC "Must Carry" rules. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Must-carry
     
  19. May 13, 2007 #99 of 304
    noneroy

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    I've been informed that Fisher Communications is now up in HD on D*. Good job guys! Of course, that's one company closer to LIN being the only one up there....:D
     
  20. adgreer

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    Situation is my parents are in the Albuquerque dma and they have recieved hd locals through D*, on 103 location using slimeline and hr20. When they recieved them the signal strenght was 30 to 40%. Now the signal is 10%. On the D* website according to their zip they are not supposed to be recieving them. I called and talking to tech support and they told me that they have to be granted permission to broadcast the same versions of the sd channels in hd that is why they don't recieve them. She told me eventually they would be available.

    Does this sound familiar, and ota is not an option? Also does D* ever grant national hd waivers for the NY and LA locals? Thanks
     

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