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Will DirecTV move to H.265?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by SledgeHammer, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. Feb 2, 2013 #121 of 149
    Mike Greer

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    It is faster if I go to a specific channel but still clunky and I still have to start a recording, go back to the list and wait.... Better but still not even close to the speed of watching something OnDmand with Comcast. I'm no fan of Comcast but I can see why many Comcast subs don't see the need for a DVR at all.

    I guess it just isn't for me.
     
  2. Feb 2, 2013 #122 of 149
    tonyd79

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    Try it at next NR, I guess.

    And any Comcast customer who thinks that is nuts. Not everything s available and Comcast on demand has always been jerky everywhere I've seen it.
     
  3. Feb 2, 2013 #123 of 149
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    So when you select a show to view is there a 'watch now' option besides record? If there is and you select watch now what happens?
     
  4. Feb 2, 2013 #124 of 149
    Mike Greer

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    My Comcast is double that speed. I've been through the network tests... I even used a DECA adapter to connect my laptop directly to the DECA network with the receivers. No problems with my laptop running full speed over the DECA network. Same performance as I get connected to my wired Ethernet network....

    The slowdown has to be Comcast screwing with the competition or something up between Comcast - the Internet - and DirecTV's servers.

    I've not seen the trouble with freezing etc that you mentioned but I've only used it here and there at a friend's house. My friend hasn't mentioned any trouble either. Maybe your trouble was with something in your setup.:)
     
  5. Feb 2, 2013 #125 of 149
    Mike Greer

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    Wow - just verified that I don't have what it takes to subject myself to OnDemand! I saw your post and just went looking for anything that may say "Watch now" to try it. I couldn't find anything that gave me the option to watch now. Maybe the receiver verifies the connection is fast enough to do Watch Now and if not it doesn't give you that option? I looked through Showtime, HBO, just the general Comedy section and the Series TV sections - I couldn't find anything at all for 'Watch Now'.

    I checked a few previews - those play without recording but it still takes 10-15 seconds for a low resolutions double boxed preview to start

    Looking for something to watch is just painful - I'd have to have a specific show in mind before I ever tried again. Browsing isn't really an option because it takes sooo long. You spend a lot of time with just the DirecTV logo in the center of the screen waiting for something to happen.

    Sorry to turn this into an OnDemand thread.... I figured new codecs could improve DirecTV's OnDemand but it looks like they need more than new codecs - it shouldn't be so hard to find something!
     
  6. Feb 2, 2013 #126 of 149
    Hoosier205

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    Again, sounds like a problem on your end..
     
  7. Feb 2, 2013 #127 of 149
    Mike Greer

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    We'll see - I think it's just not for me. I record most everything I care about anyway.

    I think anyone that thinks they don't need a DVR is nuts! Maybe like everything else at Comcast the experience varies wildly depending on the market you're in.
     
  8. Feb 2, 2013 #128 of 149
    Mike Greer

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    Of course it is!:rolleyes:
     
  9. Feb 2, 2013 #129 of 149
    RAD

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    Strange, what model receiver do you have and what software level is it running? I know you've mentioned Showtime on Demand a couple times, if you go to channel 1545, select Series and then Borgias do any of them show "Watch Now" as an option right above record option? My understanding was that it should be there and it will try to do the watch now but if it determines your connection is too slow it will then give you the option to record it and watch later or just cancel it.
     
  10. Feb 2, 2013 #130 of 149
    Mike Greer

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    I have 3 HR24-500 all running 062c software.

    Just checked again and none of the Borgias have 'Watch Now'.

    I think I really actually may have a curse!
     
  11. Feb 2, 2013 #131 of 149
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    You do seem to always have weird issues. A setup with 3 HR24s should be ideal. Great setup usually.
     
  12. Feb 2, 2013 #132 of 149
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    That was what I was referring to. Thought maybe you weren't up to date on software.
     
  13. Feb 2, 2013 #133 of 149
    P Smith

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    last days you guys posting too much but the topic: H.265
    :backtotop
     
  14. Feb 2, 2013 #134 of 149
    Hoosier205

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    What? :confused:
     
  15. Feb 2, 2013 #135 of 149
    Mike Greer

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    He means we (mostly me) have changed the topic from H.265 to OnDemand...

    I headed down that path because I thought DirecTV could improve OnDemand with new bandwidth and codecs...

    Obviously you don't think so. But I still do! Even if they don't move more OnDemand to satellite the downloads would be smaller using newer codecs...
     
  16. Feb 2, 2013 #136 of 149
    harsh

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    Alas, logic and reason take a back seat to resources and priorities. If logic ruled the day, CIG and scanning with the AM21 would be something that worked on the HR2x series (scanning on the HR34 and higher proves it can indeed be done). It logic was the driver, DIRECTV would either kill or fix TV Apps and Media Center.

    Logic can apply, but it requires a complete understanding of all the parameters and contrary to popular belief, subscribing to DIRECTV does not afford one anywhere near such omniscience.
     
  17. Feb 2, 2013 #137 of 149
    harsh

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    Given what's in the Clarke belt now (bandwidth) and what is installed in homes in terms of receiver technology (CODECs), this is not something that is going to begin to change for probably two years. It is surely premature to get excited about it.
     
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    Mike Greer

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    I'm far from excited about it! :)
     
  19. Feb 4, 2013 #139 of 149
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    If/when DirecTV starts to offer 4K or 8K material then I could see them looking into using H.265 since they will most likely have to offer new hardware to support it anyway. I would guess by that time they will have probably quit supporting the old SD Mpeg2 stuff and moved all the other SD and HD channels over to Mpeg4 (and replace all customers receivers with MPEG4 equipment), then they will have the new hardware that does 4K.
     
  20. Feb 4, 2013 #140 of 149
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    Though somewhat unclear at times, this was apparently what Philip Goswitz (DirecTV’s SVP for Space and Communications and R&D) had in mind last year when he stated the plan was move all remaining SD channels without HD duplicates to the MPEG-4 Ka band and cease with any SD MPEG-2 programming on the Ku band (at 101 at least) in about 5 years.

    The freed-up Ku band (again at 101 at least) will then be used for 4k Ultra HD programming where I suppose a compression standard like H.265 would be indispensable, particular if the same legacy 24 MHz transponder bandwidth restriction is mandated for the old 12.2-12.7 GHz DBS band.
     

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