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Will DTV Intergrate Google TV Into Their HD DVR's

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by CraigerCSM, May 28, 2010.

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  1. Jun 1, 2010 #101 of 131
    CraigerCSM

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    That is thing they touted with Google TV is that it was easy to switch back and fourth between the web and TV. The said in the past you needed to go to a separate video input to do that. Google TV will have video overlay and PIP.
     
  2. Jun 1, 2010 #102 of 131
    sigma1914

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    Yeah, switching Inputs is so tough...Press a button on the remote. :lol:

    And that's what everyone needs...crap covering the game you're trying to watch.
     
  3. Jun 1, 2010 #103 of 131
    sigma1914

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    :lol: You must be easily sold by promotional videos. Did they tell you that unless the source video is HD, then youtube HD means nothing? Also, how can you Skype video unless you have a cam and audio input device? That's not seamless, which you tout this will be, now is it?
     
  4. Jun 1, 2010 #104 of 131
    CraigerCSM

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    I think its going to have an add on web cam. Also on some YouTube videos their is the option to view it it 720p or 1080p when you click that icon at the bottom of the video. That one on the right at the end of the video progress bar.
     
  5. Jun 1, 2010 #105 of 131
    sigma1914

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    Yes, "some" are HD. But, let's face it...worthy videos of sharing are not HD. They're often cell cam video quality...like this one: :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYdewtRlJ9I No HD.
     
  6. Jun 1, 2010 #106 of 131
    Doug Brott

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    You must watch TV alone .. I know the folks I watch TV with would not appreciate a web browser getting in the way of what they are watching if I were to pop it up. I'd feel the same if they did it.

    It's not something that I would use on a regular basis .. I'd go to the computer to watch YouTube or use Skype.
     
  7. Jun 1, 2010 #107 of 131
    rog47776

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    It's obvious media is all moving to IP. The cable co's are fighting the issue as they provide the medium for IP content delivery right along side their old traditional system. Direct TV is in a unique position as it does not need to worry about ppl using their medium for content from other providers and they are on top of IP content with On Demand...although other IP based providers are less per unit than Direct TV.

    I guess my point is, eventually ppl are going to demand as few "set top" boxes as possible and if they all should integrate and not require a 100 different remotes / connections.

    If DirecTV can make it easy and affordable to access their content...I'm talking tuners for PC based Media Centers, Game Consoles and their own set tops... They have a good chance of making it through this coming (SOON) revolution. Traditional content providers (Cable / Sat) will suffer and even fail if they do not get ahead of and or lead this revolution. The time is now! It would be foolish to just try and limit your customers for the sake of old revenew models...just as the Record Co's...the ones that still exist!
     
  8. Jun 1, 2010 #108 of 131
    CraigerCSM

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    Sadly I do watch TV alone. :(

    Wouldn't Sports fans watching a game like bringing up sports scores or a Sports web site to get info on a game? As said before Google showed viewing SesameStreet.com on a big screen. I think that would be a cool baby sitting tool.
     
  9. Jun 1, 2010 #109 of 131
    CraigerCSM

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    I have been talking about that in here but alot of members in here don't like that idea.
     
  10. Jun 1, 2010 #110 of 131
    sigma1914

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    No...Me and my buddies watch sports and argue. When we need web info, someone pulls out their phone.
     
  11. Jun 1, 2010 #111 of 131
    CraigerCSM

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    Is their coverage map in the way of the screen? :lol:

    I read some articles that say the Smart Phone might replace the Laptop and possibly Desktop someday.
     
  12. Jun 1, 2010 #112 of 131
    bratboy

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    I can see it as an option, as long as its something that can easily be turned off. I personally don't use or want Google on my tv. I dont even use google on my pc except when I need a map. Choice is good but if it was maditory I would start looking for another service.
     
  13. Jun 1, 2010 #113 of 131
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    I'd mainly use it when I was alone, too. But when the family or friends are looking to plan a group activity, decide on where to go out, plan trips, etc, Google TV is IDEAL for group use. Much better than calling everyone into another room to look at online options or trying to gather everyone around the ole laptop screen. I also build web sites and have a home office, occasionally clients come by. Showing off a site on 50" screen is better than having them sit in a chair next to a computer screen. In fact, again, I've been known to use the archaic opera browser on my Wii for group site shows, especially if there are 3 or more people in that meeting.

    So alone? Yes, mainly, but LOTS of exceptions.
     
  14. Jun 1, 2010 #114 of 131
    rog47776

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    No worries. I have worked in Telecom (and data networking) for years and this is all very similar to the old voice guys that were quite adamant about Voice over an IP network. All those that resisted VoIP are no longer in the biz...and I'm not just talking about companies.

    This has also happened with the music industry. I remember the Record Co's spending all their money trying to stop all the Internet sharing instead of doing what Apple and Amazon have done. The traditional Recod Co's all lost because they were more interested in bailing out the sinking ship, than being the ones that defined a new ship.

    I've been a loyal DirecTV customer since 1997 and will continue to be unless they become about retention verses innovation.

    My vision for Direct TV is Sat-tuners that will integrate with whatever device a customer wants as their "set-top" box. I still like the idea of NOT using the Internet for streaming regular TV (news, etc...), but movies, TV shows? I like being able to get the movie or show I want, when I want...and if DirecTV can make easy for me to use them for that IP content AND the traditional Sat content GREAT!

    DirecTV is not to blame (at this point) for not having HDMI input PC cards or other methods for getting content to your computer / mobile device. The movie industry is really driving that, however I'm also sure those same folks are trying to learn from the mistakes of the music industry. It's only a matter of time before the ball is solely in the content providers hands. At that point it's all going to be about who can provide the best content and the most options for delivery of that content.
     
  15. Jun 2, 2010 #115 of 131
    CraigerCSM

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    I like that idea. However their are still some members in here that don't want that either. They think that is a nich market. I still think it would be cool to have the latest Playstation and XBOX have built in HD/SD DTV tuners and they would be dual tuners and have live buffers. I have finally decided that I will probably allways have at least two boxes since something like you said is probably a long way off or might not ever happen. One bad thing about having all that built into one box is what happens if one part of it breaks?

     
  16. Jun 2, 2010 #116 of 131
    rog47776

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    Really, I think a "one-box" approach is probably far off....BUT!

    The fact is, content via the Internet is here now. Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, iTunes, D, etc all use this transport-medium to deliver content. D is doing well by offering VoD using the Internet and DIRECTV2PC is also a good...well, it could be a good product. The issues with this PC Client app are all due to the restrictions put on D by the movie / TV industry.

    I would really like to see D make a tuner that could plug into a PC, XBOX, iMAC, PS3, etc... The DRM could be tied to the tuner being attached (meaning, you could record DirecTV content, but would only be able to play it from that "box" WITH THE TUNER connected. ...and it would be good to throw in the ability to save a "portable" or mobile version that would not have DRM, but it wouldn't matter as the format would be no better than SD.

    I do think DirectTV is leading the traditional content providers, but folks like Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, and Google do have me worried as more and more hardware and software is made to deliver via IP.

    I keep reading that larger, faster bandwidth is coming. I know that if we all had gigabit to the house, it would work really well to stream all content via IP. I don't know why I don't like the idea of all that constant across my Internet, but I don't. I do know that once all media uses the same transport, the next revolution will be all media content becoming interactive. ...great, there will be no more sitting back and just watching...you'll have to do something too. That might be fun with certain adult content, but...
     
  17. Jun 2, 2010 #117 of 131
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    DTV did have a tuner for the PC in the works and they were beta testing it but they cancelled it. I think members here think it was due to lack of interest and that also being a niche product.

    I don't see why it would be a nich product since computers have gotten easier to use? I guess a computer with DTV might be to complex for some to use.

    I also think it would be cool if PC makers started making 42" to 65" monitors and offering those with a PC that could get DTV, Dish and Cable. I wonder how much cheaper a big screen HD monitor would be that was just a monitor and didn't have a tuner it then a regular big screen HDTV and the tuner would only be in the PC?
     
  18. Jun 2, 2010 #118 of 131
    Doug Brott

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    Content via IP is one thing .. That's fine for me. Web browsing on my TV? Pass.
     
  19. Jun 2, 2010 #119 of 131
    sigma1914

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    Exactly my feelings. That's what's great about current blu ray players...streaming options built in.
     
  20. Jun 2, 2010 #120 of 131
    Stuart Sweet

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    As I've said before, the end result is that terms like "television," "phone," and "computer" will be obsolete. Perhaps in as little as five years, probably more like ten. There will be a portable source for content, a larger one you may keep in a small room, and a large one for group use. All will communicate with other people, all will allow for productive uses, and all will deliver entertainment content in both directions.

    GoogleTV is a step towards that... but it isn't the step I'll be taking. I'll wait for more of a true convergence.
     
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