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will SAM-6802, or WB68 connect 3 dishes

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by jertigger, Sep 25, 2009.

  1. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

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    Your right. Thought that was still in there. Sorry about that.

    I still think your best option for rain fade would be to get the AK/HI dish kit.
     
  2. kevinturcotte

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  3. litzdog911

    litzdog911 Well-Known Member

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    Here's what you need to do ....

    * Set the Receiver's Satellite Setup for "Single LNB 18" Round Dish".

    * Connect the Receiver to your 101ºW dish LNB. Peak this dish so that you see signals on most all of the 32 transponders. You should be able to receive all of your regular SD channels at this point. That's how you'll know that this dish is aimed properly at 101ºW.

    * Now connect the Receiver to your 119º dish LNB. Peak this dish so that you see signals on ONLY transponders 22-32 (a few might be low or zero, that's OK). If you see signals only transponders 28, 30 and 32, then that dish is actually aimed at the 110ºW satellite. If you see signals on transponders 22-32, then you're properly aimed at the 119ºW satellite.

    * Now connect the two dishes to the multiswitch SAT INPUTs. The first two INPUTS connect to the two 101ºW dish outputs, and the second two multiswitch inputs connect to the two 119ºW dish outputs.

    * Connect your Receiver to one of the multiswitch outputs. Repeat the Receiver's Satellite Setup and specify "3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish". You should now have the correct channels, including your locals.
     
  4. HoTat2

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    No, but if for some technical reason since there is no longer a Phase II option in the setup and the receivers must actually detect the three LNBs if Phase III is selected to function correctly then the OP may have no choice but to hook up a third dish for 110 based on litzdog's diagram #2

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    One 30" dish for 101 is used in place of the AT-9, and the other 30" dish for the 119 with the Phase I for 110. The two HS-2 slitters are not necessary and the Sonora polarity locker or a powered multiswitch may best be used as well.
     
  5. bobnielsen

    bobnielsen Éminence grise

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    Since 110 is combined with 119 (even channels) the receiver cannot distinguish between the two, except that transponders 8, 10 and 12 (converted from 28, 30 and 32 with the special LNB) will show zero signal strength if 110 is not present.
     
  6. litzdog911

    litzdog911 Well-Known Member

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    bob's right .... there's no reason to connect the 110º dish. My setup works fine with no 110º dish connected and the equipment set for "3-LNB Phase III" dish.
     
  7. jertigger

    jertigger Cool Member

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    Set receiver for 18" round dish--retuned dish for 101 strength 98-100---received all 101 channels
    Connected 119 dish to receiver, had to change setup to 3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish in order to see 119 signal meter.

    Before I adjusted dish checked all 3 meters
    97-100 on 119 meters, 22-32 transponders
    97-100 on 101 meter 30 of 32 transponders
    97-100 on 110 meter 3 of 3 transponders

    Before going any further I went back and checked the 101 dish with receiver set 3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish, read all 3 sats. approximately same strengths.

    Ever so gently tried to adjust 119 dish, if I lost signal on one sat I lost it on all three, if I nudged in any direction to a weaker signal on one the all got weaker. I seem to see all 3 sats at same time on both dishes.

    I cant get rid of 110 and 101 signals without loosing the 119 signal.

    Further suggestions, turn dishes upside down, sideways, backwords, or maybe move where there is snow and use them for sleds
     
  8. texasbrit

    texasbrit Well-Known Member

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    I responded to your post on the DirecTV tech forum. The mistake you are making is that when you set up a round dish to look at 119, you need to point it at 119, correct? But the round dish will only see one satellite at a time, and it, and the receiver, think that satellite will be 101, so it will get displayed as if it were 101. So if the dish is aligned perfectly on 119, what the receiver will show is "101 signals" that are actually coming from 119, so you will only see TPs 22-32 because that's all 119 has.
     
  9. jertigger

    jertigger Cool Member

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    Thanks,

    got it at that site, at least I dont have to move to the north country and use the dishes for sleds, have a much better understanding of what I did wrong, I thought too much. and acted on those wrong thoughts.

    Sorry for being such a pest
     
  10. HoTat2

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    Yeah...

    After reading yours, then texasbrit and litzdog911's reply posts on this issue in the DirecTV forum, I understand what is happening (finally! :)) . The 119 dish is still not dialed in correctly as I thought and is actually pointed at 101, otherwise when you connect a receiver directly to the 119 dish the 101 screen would not be reading levels 97-100 on 30 out of 32 transponders if it was properly pointed at 119, but on 22-32 at whatever levels.

    The 110 and 119 Tps. screen levels are simply copies of those same numbered Tps. at 101. That's why the level readings are exactly mirrored that way across all three positions.

    Keep the 119 dish on the Phase I round dish option in the receiver set-up during initial alignment and use the 101 level screen to align the dish until only transponders 22-32 light-up, and those numbers only. If you cannot find that specific transponder set anywhere or the levels are low then you have a LOS problem to 119 from that location and are going to have to reposition the dish. Preferably to someplace at or near the Phase III which you mentioned are receiving it well.

    Once you have done that you should be good hook up the multiswitch and place all the receivers on the Phase III dish in the setup.
     
  11. jertigger

    jertigger Cool Member

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    ALL DONE

    Got it working, I appreciate your time and patience especially as we were nearing the end of this journey.

    Thanks for sticking with my fumbling around.:hurah::hurah::hurah:
     
  12. HoTat2

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    Needless to say I'm very glad to hear it. :dance01:
     
  13. boba

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    Congratulations it was a simple problem in the end.
     
  14. texasbrit

    texasbrit Well-Known Member

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    Pleased you could sort it out in the end.
     

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