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Will Sidecar work with SWim 16 & HR24?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by bigbrother52, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. bigbrother52

    bigbrother52 AllStar

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    In an effort to rectify this situation, Earl has requested and he has been sent all the pertinent information regarding my order/install.

    Hopefully these installer/techs can get properly schooled, so that we poor subscribers don't need to know more then they do, in order to get a little bit of service every now and again.

    I will keep you good folks informed as events develop and hopefully come to a satisfactory outcome.

    All this drama over sticking a SWiM16 on the wall and moving some wires over from a WB68!

    Thanks for all your efforts Earl.
     
  2. bobnielsen

    bobnielsen Éminence grise

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    Bainbridge...
    If you have a poor connection between the sidecar and main LNB and don't need to receive anything on 110 or 119, you can (with a SWM system) tell the receivers that it has a Slimline 3 and it will work fine. However, without a SWM there will be issues getting the guide data. My system has been set up this way for several months.
     
  3. bigbrother52

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    If you would be so kind as to clarify a bit for me, in my attempt to learn even more then my last installer.

    I'm pretty sure you are saying if my sidecar fails and I don't need the 110 or 119 then I can simply tell all the boxes, that the dish they are seeing is now a Slimline 3 and then there would be no need to replace this aged dish just because I used to need guide data off the sidecar and as long as I can manage to get SWiM installed!

    If this is so it would be great for me but as far as the HR-24 is concerned, I understand it reads what dish you have automatically, can that be entered manually instead to fool it?
     
  4. bigbrother52

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    I am astonished and somewhat frustrated that all the hard work that has been done on my behalf has not resulted in any kind of outcome and DirecTV still has a failure to install anything new here at all.

    It seems that my previous custom install is just too great of a burden for DirecTV to overcome, at least for the local installation company to overcome.

    So I'll have to resort to writing Ellen at the office of the Vice President to see if she can manage to somehow work through this dilemma.

    It would be most appreciated if anybody happens to have this e-mail address.


    Thank you
     
  5. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

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    To be honest, I wouldn't expect any HSP to touch the dish on the tower. While it may be very, very stable, it's well outside of "standard" and quite possibly outside of the capablities of the local office.

    You may be better off to get a 3rd party to upgrade your dish and proceed from there.
     
  6. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    They dont need to touch the dish, just swap in a SWM16 to replace a WB68 in the house.
     
  7. bigbrother52

    bigbrother52 AllStar

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    I would never expect DirecTV to install a new dish, however it would be quite the grand gesture perhaps if they would leave one for me to have installed, or at least TRY to just install SwiM, leaving my perfectly good dish right where it is.
    Since so many say this combination works fine, would there be any harm in simply trying to accomadate a customer who has worked so hard to keep this service?

    Pics of the install if you're interested

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/34457544@N02/sets/72157615130537935/
     
  8. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Is that Rohn45? I was always curious if it would be stable enough to keep the dish from blowing off the satellite in a wind. Nice install.
     
  9. RobertE

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    Policy is that the dish gets swapped. Will it work? Sure. However I can understand their reluctance not to touch it. The second they do anything and close the work order, they are now on a 90 day chargeback clock. Same reason why I can understand them not just dropping off the dish also.
     
  10. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Im sure they have the same routes I do, for non-standard installs, to obtain a waiver signed by the customer. Obviously, this guy "who doesnt work for us web site guys" never bothered calling any of the numbers available to him.
     
  11. bigbrother52

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    I don't really remember what one it was but Hughs Sat. Communication Company calculated exactly what was needed based on the surface area of the dish and what part of the country we're in so it can withstand any type of normally occuring storms and then some!

    It has not budged in the 5 yrs it now stands
     
  12. prospect60

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    Holy crap, I'd have gotten out of the truck and crawled on my knees just to look at that inside HT --Theta with tubes and gorgeous speakers. Of course I would never have made my next job b/c I'd be watching that Sat TV for several hours just to make sure it worked. You'd think just by looking at that tower and the effort gone through to get Sat TV that the OP actually knew a little bit more than the standard Joe.
     
  13. bigbrother52

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    On that hot day, I would have invited you to sit down, offered you a cold one, let you play with the remote until you were ready to leave with a healthy tip.

    But that is not what happened!!
     
  14. Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    I was asked if I wanted to switch to Slimline--but my signals have always been remarkably good. So we left it.

    Has been known to feed 4 switches: 2 WB68s and 2 SWiM8s. Now feeding two SWiM16s thru an expander rather than discrete splitters. Works great! :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  15. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    What are you trying to install, MRV? Rather than hassle with DirecTv, you could probably just buy the SWM16, and swap it yourself, or do you need additional lines run somewhere?
     
  16. Tom Robertson

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    Yup, I always have tall cold ones ready for the installers. (Though if I do get a winter install someday, I'd have warm ones too.) :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  17. bigbrother52

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    I have Unsupported MRV to my two HR20-700's
    I have 3 additional standard DVR's that they were supposed to replace.
    That is 10 tuners so apparently my WB68 was maxed out awhile ago and I didn't feel like running the additional cables to those rooms when SWiM is now available.

    Just put that thing in and all of my problems go away, plus I get all the additional benifits of the added recording space to multiple rooms.

    Just seemed to simple I guess.
     
  18. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    32 tuners...now the truth comes out.... :D
     
  19. bigbrother52

    bigbrother52 AllStar

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    Don't one of you super duper mod type guys have Ellen's e-mail address to share with us common folk?
     
  20. Davenlr

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