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Will you drop D* over the "Brrrrrip" issue?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by wilbur_the_goose, Mar 16, 2009.

Will you drop D* because of the brrrrrip issue?

  1. No - I'm OK with it or don't care

    0 vote(s)
  2. Yes, if they don't fix it by April 1

  3. Yes, if they don't fix it by June

  4. Yes, if they don't fix it by Sept 1

  1. loudo

    loudo Well-Known Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    Central Maine
    I remember this problem back when Fox Sports Florida first started with HD. It was really bad during some of the Marlins games, occurring every couple of minutes. It has been a while since the last time I have seen this though. I guess I am watching channels that it is not effecting. I was watching the WBC game last night, jumping back and forth between that and some CI hockey games, and don't recall seeing it. I will have to look closer today.
  2. ub1934

    ub1934 Icon

    Dec 30, 2005
    UpState NY
    Last night on the Late Show WCBS Ch # 2 MPEG 4 NYC lots of video & audio issues at the top of the show but was OK on Ch # 80 CBS MPEG 2 feed , hope they fix this soon . :(
  3. Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    I was going to note that most of the issues during the game were audio and not video and were of shorter duration than the one that I captured and uploaded earlier in the day. They are there though...this was also on a different TV/Audio setup than the one used earlier.
  4. labatt79

    labatt79 Mentor

    Jan 16, 2008
    Getting a ton of issues with CBS HD while watching March Madness. The tourney just started and I'm already having picture/sound issues. My wife is about to boot DirecTV out of our house.

    Also had issues with the recording of CSI: Miami on Monday.
  5. jasonblair

    jasonblair Icon

    Sep 5, 2006
    I think I noticed it last night! I was watching House on USA HD, and Cutty asked House to St-st-st-st-stop antogonizing her. I don't know why you call it the "brrriiippp" issue. It sounds more like the "Max Headroom" issue to me.

    I hear this type of thing on cable too. It's just the digital signal noise... You're gonna have it on any TV delivery system you opt for... Cable, broadcast, or satellite.
  6. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Check our local GR/Kzoo thread on AVS. WWMT (CBS 3) had tons of transmitter and equipment issues. It was even out for a time. Everyone in the area had problems (OTA, cable, Uverse, DirecTV, Dish). It was squarely WWMT's problem. The AVS thread has a summary even of all the equipment failures they had.

    So DirecTV is safe on this one at least. :)
  7. Jeremy W

    Jeremy W Hall Of Fame

    Jun 19, 2006
    Nope, different issue. Did you watch the video posted in this thread? It's called "brrriiippp" because that's how it sounds. It doesn't sound like stuttering.
  8. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Dec 9, 2006
    [time to pick on Jeremy again :lol: ]
    I too watched House on USA yesterday and saw the same thing.
    While it didn't have the audio "brrriiippp", it did come at the same place/time that it has [the brriip] in other programs on USA, which seems like it was just another manifestation of the same problem. Bad bit(s) in the MPEG-2 feed and the encoder "tripping over them" as it was transcoding.
  9. Jeremy W

    Jeremy W Hall Of Fame

    Jun 19, 2006
    Well yeah, if you define the problem as an error in the MPEG2 feed, then sure it was the same problem. But the "brrriiippp" is very distinctive, caused by a reset in the encoder. Repeating the same few frames of audio, or stuttering, is generally a buffer not getting refilled properly and just repeating the stored info until it gets new info.

    So it was probably a different type of error in the MPEG2 stream than the one that causes the brrrrrip.
  10. LarryFlowers

    LarryFlowers New Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    Be very aware the CBS affiliates are dealing with a problem caused by the Network in an equipment upgrade. I have been tracking the problem with my local affiliate who has been very forthcoming about the problem. The source of the issue was identified and the fix is being distributed throughout the system. It apparently involves a change at both the source end and the local affiliate, they are working it station by station... I have notice a marked improvement in the Atlanta affiliate in the past week and it seems like they have a handle on it even if the problem hasn't been completely deployed.

  11. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Thanks for the clarification Larry.

    Some folks are quick to assume its on the DirecTV side, when its really a result of the content provider.
  12. spidey

    spidey Hall Of Fame

    Aug 31, 2006
    I mostly see it with recordings on local NBC channel. Not a big deal since I see OTA issues as well with same channel. Its a nuisance but nothing dropping them over. Plus whats my option? Cable ? I dropped them in 1996 because of snowy and crappy picture and folks I know who have them arent thrilled with the service. Last time I was at a house with cable I had to comment about the snowy picture and that hd wasnt all that clear.
  13. pdxBeav

    pdxBeav Godfather

    Jul 5, 2007
    Some people think it's the content provider when it's really the equipment manufacturer.....
    Some people think it's the equipment manufacturer when it's really the silicon provider.....
    Some people think it's the silicon provider when it's really the IP provider....
    Some people think it's the IP provider when its really the firmware....


    The list goes on and on, but who is getting my money for the monthly service? They are the ones ultimately responsible.
  14. Jeremy W

    Jeremy W Hall Of Fame

    Jun 19, 2006
  15. Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Some people know that it can be and often is all of the above. (And more).

    If it happens to everyone who could take your money, then you are left with the choice of not paying anyone (and not getting the channels) or continue to pay someone.

    I'll stand with my statements that it is getting better as all the parties are resolving their parts to the problems. My CBS is much better, my other channels are still very rare, and when I do hear the very rare, it doesn't brrriiiippp. It burps.

    So my "garbage in explosion out" is back to "garbage in garbage out".

  16. rebkell

    rebkell Godfather

    Sep 9, 2006
    The problem seems a lot better, but I have little doubt that the USA, SciFi, TNT, and all the nationals didn't just start spitting out garbage simultaneously, there was a definite problem on the Directv end. It's nowhere near like it was, but I just don't believe that all the national stations just all of a sudden started having these problems.

    I still figure Directv was trying to fix a lot of the local issues with a catch all solution and in the process caused these brrrippps to start happening across the board. I'll still take it any day over lip sync problems, those drive me completely ape sh!t.
  17. andunn27

    andunn27 Legend

    Sep 24, 2007
    I wish they would fix these.
  18. Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    MLB Network on DirecTV is still having numerous problems. Before we start saying it's the content provider and not DirecTV...let's also remember that DirecTV is also one of the owners there as well.
  19. BattleZone

    BattleZone Hall Of Fame

    Nov 13, 2007
    Two weeks ago, my local Fox (KTXL, Sacramento) station had major encoder problems at the beginning of SCC, and flipped to standard-def halfway through the intro. It went to commercial, and came back in HD and was fine from then on. And this was an OTA recording on my VMC computer. Obviously the DirecTV feed of my local had the same problems.
  20. texasmoose

    texasmoose Icon

    May 24, 2007
    I've heard it on many occasions since the implementation of MPEG-4. My wife is big on a CW show "Reaper" and the last episode alone we heard it at least a dozen times and I'm not exaggerating! We are taping this show now over OTA from now on. I never noticed it b4 the MPEG-4 transition, nor did we ever hear it on cable, but that was fed, via MPEG-2 codec.

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