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Will you drop D* over the "Brrrrrip" issue?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by wilbur_the_goose, Mar 16, 2009.

Will you drop D* because of the brrrrrip issue?

  1. No - I'm OK with it or don't care

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  2. Yes, if they don't fix it by April 1

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  3. Yes, if they don't fix it by June

    3.4%
  4. Yes, if they don't fix it by Sept 1

    5.1%
  1. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, 100%.
     
  2. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Nope. I'm using HDMI from my HR2X's and my H2X to my Onkyo for audio and then out from the Onkyo to my TV for video and no "brrrrp" here.
     
  3. loudo

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    Not an issue here on either receivers.
     
  4. Ken S

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    I apologize that I have been incapable of explaining the issue to some folks here. A couple of posts back VOS explains it far better than I have. If that explanation doesn't work for you...I can't be of any further help.

    In simple terms the bad sound/picture blips are being broadcast to all of our boxes that way. Certainly, if you're not watching that specific program on that specific channel at that point in time you won't see/hear the problem....that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Let's use another example of a "malfunction" that was broadcast. When Janet Jackson's top was ripped off during the Super Bowl...

    1. Everyone that was watching the game live at that point in time on CBS saw her breast.
    2. Some people weren't watching so they didn't see it...it still happened.
    3. Some people weren't upset about it...it still happened.
    4. The people who weren't watching the game and/or had their TVs off didn't see her breast, but it still happened.

    The tree is falling in the forest...and yes it makes a noise...whether you're there or not.

    Here's a link to a video of an example of the problem that I captured today off the MLB Network broadcast of a baseball game. Anyone watching that game on a DirecTV MPEG4 capable receiver in HD (HR2x) would have seen/heard the anomaly. It happened on two different machines here. My signal strength is 95+

    This is a problem that DirecTV needs to fix. I have heard from reputable sources that they are working on it. I hope they get it fixed because it does detract from the quality of their service.

    So, if you claim to have never seen or heard the problem before here you go. If you want to claim the problem is not DirecTV wide...you're welcome to...you're just wrong. I should note that this example is worse that most...usually it's just an audio issue, the video problem happens about 10% of the time. During the game in question which lasted about three hours there were roughly five times that I noticed it happening (I wasn't paying strict attention).

    DirecTV Brrrriiiiiip in color on MLB Network

    The problem occurs about :10 seconds into the video..so for those of you so horribly bored by baseball that it's painful please feel free to skip ahead...or skip the thread entirely.

    Finally, is this a reason for me to cancel DirecTV? No...it would be part of the reason if it isn't fixed, but it has been going on for months and I haven't canceled yet. Is it a bothersome problem...at least for me and some others it is.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: Watch the young man behind the batter right after the glitch...sometimes people forget they're on camera when they sit behind home plate :)
     
  5. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Perhaps [only] "unaware" of it.

    Once you've had a bad problem with it, you/I become much more attuned to it and have started noticing it on more channels/programs.
     
  6. Ken S

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    Jason,

    I guess I'll have to live with that. Did it harm anyone in any way having a little bit of knowledge about what they may experience? The nature of a broadcast is that everyone sees the same thing. This is a broadcast issue.
     
  7. Malibu13

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    I have noticed it a few times but it has shown an improvement. By my standards it's not worth the hassle of switching providers nor is it that big of an issue to warrant me doing so. My vote was "NO". :)
     
  8. Justin23

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    I have a Samsung 46A630 with an HR21-100 that uses the D* provided HDMI cable. Sure enough after mentioning it earlier in this thread, my girl saw the briiippp last night. She said the audio appeared to be out of sync as well. Has this only started happening with the moving of the HD channels to mpeg-4?

    J
     
  9. guffy1

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    I never had an issue with it before MPEG-4. On my end it started right when the first batch of HD Nationals was moved over to MPEG-4 (ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, HDNets, etc...)

    BTW, when I say "my end" I say that with a huge grain of salt. Ive never seen a D* MPEG-4 HD Set up without Brrrppp issues, and Ive seen around a half dozen. Everyone has the issues, but like Jeremy said earlier theres no kind way of explaining the reasons why people "claim" they dont have the problem. So it is what it is I guess. :)
     
  10. loudo

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    A little Brrrrrip like that, lasting a second, wouldn't bother me half as much as someone cutting my FIOS cable and it being down for hours or days. :nono2:
     
  11. Jeremy W

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    This argument is almost as pathetic as the rain fade argument against satellite.
     
  12. KoRn

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    Ken S,

    Good job posting that video. That is the exact same thing we have been experiencing day 1 on our install. Every thing has been checked out to a T and comes out fine.
     
  13. FlBillsfan

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    They just laid FIOS cable on my street. It is in a trench about 4' down in a pipe, I wouldn't worry about someone cutting it. The thing about the BRRRIP is this is the 21 Century. They did not have these problems with audio in the 50's.
     
  14. Tom Robertson

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    Ummm... GTE (the former phone company) had all their services entering the state of Florida in ONE pipe, 15' down, covered in concrete. Many VPs had to sign off on a single entry into a region.

    One day a new skyscraper was being built. When they sank the piers for the foundation... You guessed it, many VP heads rolled...

    4' is nothing. We just had our comcast cable hit last week (for our internet). Was brand new fibre and had just been buried this summer.

    So never say never when it comes to cables being cut.

    Ok, one more story. In one place we lived, the cable was stretched to the underside of a railroad overpass. (Not sure if it was in conduit, my assumption is it was.) Some teens tossed some christmas trees onto the tracks and lit them. The makeshift bonfire burned the cables... (Winter splicing of major phone trunklines is a #$*&%^#*$^%!!)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  15. Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    Since you've edited your post to add this last clause...

    Excuse me??? They didn't have brrripps, I'll grant to you that. They had snow and white noise. Multipath distortion, and all kinds of lipsync problems. Problems keeping transmitters and tuners on frequency.

    But if you want to go back to the '50s, go for it. :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  16. FlBillsfan

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    I'm not saying I want to go back Tom, I just expected we would be further advanced by now.........I also thought we would be driving FLYING Cars.
     
  17. Tom Robertson

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    I expected the Moeller skycar out by now too.

    They are coming, but slowly...

    As are the improvements to digital TV as everyone gets to figure out how to run their studios with MPEG2 or MPEG4.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  18. FlBillsfan

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    I always enjoy your posts & it looks like you have a GREAT family. I would be happy to have you for a neighbor.
     
  19. Ken S

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    Last night I watched the USA vs. Venezuela WBC game and kept a pad nearby to keep count of the video/audio issues. During the 3 1/2 hour game (there was over an hour rain delay) there were 18 audio and/or audio/video disruptions. That's not good.
     
  20. jrodfoo

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    Hmm, I watched most of that game and I didn't notice anything. I also watched Scrubs on ABC HD and didn't notice any audio problems. Maybe I just didn't notice, but I watched those 2 things pretty closely. I really hope they are able to get this fixed in a reasonable manner. :nono2:
     

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