Windows 10 Free Upgrade

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  1. May 5, 2016 #681 of 939
    jimmie57

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    Yes you can go back to Win 7 or 8 after running 10. My son rolled back his laptop and his desktop to one of those previous versions. His desktop has a super powerful video card and Win 10 changed the driver for it and he did not like the way it looked.

    I have it on my laptop and desktop and I like it. I also had problems at first with the video driver. That got fixed with the first update that came out.
     
  2. May 6, 2016 #682 of 939
    Wilf

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    There is suppose to be a time limit on rolling back to a previous version. However, the big unknown is what happens at the end of July? MS has been silent to date. Speculation goes from the free update being extended, to the introduction of a subscription fee for new features. Time will tell I guess.
     
  3. May 6, 2016 #683 of 939
    jimmie57

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    I believe the allowed time to roll back is set to 30 days after installation.
     
  4. May 6, 2016 #684 of 939
    dpeters11

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    There is a time limit on the roll back due to the amount of disk space used. Of course there is an unlimited time for the more labor intensive full reinstall of 7, depending on what you do with it. I had an issue with an Insider build, did a clean install and was back up and running very quickly as I really don't use many third party apps.

    I put this in a separate thread as I thought it was worthy of not being on page 28, but Microsoft has stated that they'll start charging $119 for upgrades. This is only for those that don't already have the upgrade. The Anniversary update itself will be free.
     
  5. May 6, 2016 #685 of 939
    Mark Holtz

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    Simple solution: Make a full drive image of Windows 7, upgrade to Windows 10, make a full drive image.

    You should be making a regular backup to an external drive anyways.
     
  6. May 8, 2016 #686 of 939
    Dude111

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    Many peoples computers are bieng hijacked to Win10!
     
  7. May 8, 2016 #687 of 939
    MysteryMan

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    Hijacked? Please explain.
     
  8. May 8, 2016 #688 of 939
    Wilf

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    There have been many stories of folks having their PC upgraded to W10 when they did not want it. In some of these, the upgrade failed and the PC had become unusable. Then there is the viral Youtube video of the weather lady who had the W10 upgrade ad appear on her green screen weather map. MS has gotten a lot of criticism over these tactics.
     
  9. May 8, 2016 #689 of 939
    trh

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    First mentioned in post #632 in this thread. Although without the word "hijacked".
     
  10. May 8, 2016 #690 of 939
    James Long

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    There are plenty of "stories" on the Internet about many topics. Some of them are not true.


    So blame Microsoft for not properly managing your PC? If the station IT guy was more proactive the alert would not have happened on air. But ignore things long enough and eventually one will get bit.

    One might as well complain that a new email pop-up contained a pornographic subject line and blame Microsoft for the popup.
     
  11. May 8, 2016 #691 of 939
    Wilf

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    I monitor a number of techy computer websites and podcasts (https://www.thurrott.com/ and https://www.twit.tv/ for example), and the issues are not bogus. There is also third party software showing up, to prevent the W10 popup ads (https://www.grc.com/never10.htm), and there are numerous guides on how to stop the W10 telemetry to the MS mothership (http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10 are a couple of examples).
     
  12. May 8, 2016 #692 of 939
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    One of the things is that you see lots of complaints when things go wrong, but not many post that they got the upgrade, everything works and they're happy with it.

    Has the upgrade gone completely right for everyone? No.

    Some are very unwilling to update things. I had some users at the office quite upset when we said they could no longer get corporate email on iOS 6. I had another user mad that she had to install service packs on Vista when we got new SSL certs. Funny thing is I had a lot more pushback from iPhone 5 users than those still on the 4 that needed new hardware.
     
  13. May 9, 2016 #693 of 939
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    I wish I could say the same, but this is the buggiest version of Windows I've used, and I've been using Windows since version 3.0 came out in 1990. The Start menu no longer works on one of my PCs and I haven't found any fixes that work, just the stock answers from Microsoft to run the SFC and DISM commands. It looks like I'm going to have to reload it and then run the upgrade again.
     
  14. May 9, 2016 #694 of 939
    bmetelsky

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    Did you try re-installing Windows 10 from scratch? It sounds like something got "borked" in the upgrade process.
     
  15. May 9, 2016 #695 of 939
    billsharpe

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    Since last July for Windows 10 upgrade! And you can call 1-800-MICROSOFT free if you are having problems directly related to Windows 10.

    I have also been using MS Expression Web 4, a free download, for several years to manage a website that I run.
     
  16. hdtvfan0001

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    Running on 4 PCs and a tablet successfully here for some time now. Know dozens of others running Windows 10 without any real issues as well.
     
  17. dpeters11

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    Don't reinstall the older version and update to 10, just install 10 clean. You only have to use the upgrade path the first time.
     
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  18. Rich

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    Even with my ungodly lack of luck I have had no problems with the upgrade.

    Rich
     
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  19. hdtvfan0001

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    Well that's the ultimate test and report! :grin:

    I have dealt directly with 4 users who had issues with WIN10.

    1 installed it incorrectly - long story, but by doing an uninstall and reinstall - they have been running without issues since.
    2 installed OK, but got a couple of error messages. After about 3 days, we not only uncovered that the previous install had some outdated drivers, but doing an update in WIN10 corrected any of their symptoms - no problems since.
    1 Install itself went OK for this user, but clearly there was something else going on with their desktop PC. After diagnosing for more than a week, we uncovered a hard drive about to fail and an off-brand graphics card that barely had a WIN8.1 driver released. That was 4 months ago. The hard drive got replaced, correcting any symptoms on that front, and 2 months later, the graphics card released a new driver that worked. All is well now with this user.

    One last anecdotal issue I've seen is when people "upgrade" to WIN10, and don't install the right version (64-bit, 32-bit, etc.). There are plenty of "charts" on the web that show which specific version of WIN10 you should use for an upgrade. Using another version could result in problems.
     
  20. MysteryMan

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    Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 (KB3156421) Build: 10586.318 rolled out today.
     

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