Wireless Joey over ethernet?

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by gregtompkins, Aug 26, 2015.

  1. Tim Croce

    Tim Croce New Member

    Aug 22, 2017
    Tri-State area
    Well I feel pretty bad, but no drawing update. Work and moving put the brakes on that. But after all that I'm actually online
    with some pretty cool stuff. Basically breaking my system up over VLANs has helped me organize my multiple networks. So I promised drawings and I'll start with some for this year and should post here in about a week. My connections between
    my main source of communications, mainly Dish Network, Hughes Net, and VIASat, requires separation. I will provide a tested
    system that is have and 1 system without VLANs, but not tested. (should work). Mainly the distance is my issue, all things
    considered, I'm actually over 300 ft, so the only thing that will work is a quality wireless Ethernet connection.
  2. Tim Croce

    Tim Croce New Member

    Aug 22, 2017
    Tri-State area
    Here is a conversation I had with another member (Adam P) describing my system. Hopefully this will continue.

    You mentioned a EZ bridge, not sure of reference EZ, however, any Ethernet (TCP/IP) bridging should work. Here's mine:

    - I have a EnGenius N-ENH500 Kit Wireless Long Range 802.11n 5GHz Wireless Bridge Access Point AP, to carry my signals across. It can handle 10 to 300 mbit traffic. I use 2 Netgear GS108 TV2 managed switches to separate my two networks, using vLans. One is dedicated to the DISH Joey network and the other carries my Internet out. Both are vLans setup in the Netgear GS108's.
    But, if you're just carrying a Wireless Joey system, it can be simplified by:

    1. - Program the two Engenius Antennas as a Bridge (Instructions online or I can post later [Still working on drawings/Pdf]).
    2. - Then mount and point at each other, best signal is line of sight, up to 2Km.
    3. - Plug one free Hopper network port directly into one Engenius antenna. Use main port.
    4. - Plug Wireless Joey WAP into other Engenius antenna, at receiving end. Use main port.
    5. - Make sure all is powered up.
    6. - Then follow Dish's instructions for setting up a Wireless Joey.
    Its just like hooking the Wireless Joey WAP directly to the back free network port on the Hopper.

    I have a few tree branches in the way and the system sometimes buffers for a second or two. That will be corrected once I move the first Engenius antenna, 10 ft or so, to clear up the line of sight.
    Nice thing about this is, I can bridge up to 6 Engenius antennas to carry other Ethernet based services. Like security cameras, basic internet services, etc.
  3. GXM-Gary

    GXM-Gary New Member

    Feb 11, 2019
    I am new on this forum, but have had Dish Network and my Hopper with Sling and 3 Joeys for many years. My network has a router and 3 switches, all gigabit on all ports. My internet service is from a cable modem and gives a rock solid 100 Mbps. Very few devices use wireless. Basically just portable devices, an Amazon fire stick, one Smart TV where I did not have an ethernet run.

    I just have original Joeys, and was told don't use Ethernet connection, only MoCA. I did not have Coax going to where my third Joey is, so I figured it couldn't hurt to try it.

    My main router has 4 LAN ports, One is my VoIP box, one is the local PC, and one goes to the first gigabit 8 port switch. On that 8 port switch, I have the Hopper on one port and the Joey on one port, and it works perfectly. Just the one switch between them. I have tried it with a second switch, and it still worked, but with how the cables are routed, I can keep it to a single switch hop. The other ports are 2 more PC's, a Blu Ray player, WD TV box, etc. and then to another switch, another Smart TV and Blu Ray player, etc. The only thing I ended up doing to make it totally stable, is I have assigned all of the Dish Network hardware fixed IP addresses on my local LAN, yes, even the MoCA connected Joeys. The units are technically still in DHCP mode, but my router uses a list to assign them the IP address based on their MAC address, so they always get the same address when the system comes up, or if anything has to reset or renegotiate. Without the fixed IP's, the Cat5 connected Joey would sometimes lose connection. It has worked fine for years since I put in the fixed IP scheme.
  4. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    Good find !

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