Woe is me. Installer

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  1. Rich

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    I taught classes at a local college as a "consultant". You are right. This might be a different case. I paid no taxes, no FICA, just got a straight salary and had to watch the taxes myself. Signed a different contract for each course. Hadn't thought of that. Good call.

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    So, what happened? I hope either the OP or the owner of the company he is having the dispute with tells us the outcome of this whole thing. I hate to be left dangling.

    Rich :icon_kiff
     
  3. Rich

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    Hey there, I live in Piscataway. Are we, as homeowners, really responsible if an independent contractor does work on our dwellings as a subcontractor and the contractor doesn't pay him?

    I know how contractors are dealt with in industry in NJ, but it never dawned on me that the law would be different for homeowners. Doesn't D* also "gain" from the installation?

    I hope you're wrong, no offense meant. I have a lot of contractors that I use at home, but D* and carpet installers, delivery people and the odd appliance repairman and oh boy, this is worse than I thought. Wouldn't that be "self incrimination"?

    Please tell me you're not a lawyer! ("Not that there's anything wrong with that."

    I gotta Google this.

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  4. Rich

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    So I Googled it. Just got links to lawyers. Any labor lawyers in NJ out there?

    Rich

     
  5. shocky

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    A builder acts as a proxy for the homeowner and thus the contractor can put a lien property.

    This isn't the same situation.
     
  6. cantrellswire

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    Update. I was very pleased to see the Owner of JP&D Chime in. I've reviewed my invoices and I was paid. I still have not heard anything from Booby Wilson of Texas Custom installations. His voice mail is full and he is not taking calls. I'm having to sue him.

    I'm working with a new company and they have been keeping me very busy. I've been super pleased with the work and I'm doing very well.

    I'll keep this thread updated until I get paid or give up.
     
  7. Pink Fairy

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    I am glad to hear that at least SOME headway has been made!
     
  8. jbraden

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    In that case, you are correct. Everything depends on the contractual agreement between the two parties, and a lawsuit (or binding arbitration if both parties agree) would be needed to get relief.
     
  9. cantrellswire

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    Update!

    WOW! I submitted this forum to both DirecTV and Mastec (Advanced Technologies) last night and this afternoon I received a call from the Contract Supervisor from Mastec. He has asked me to come in an produce my invoices for payment. I have all paperwork ready and I'll be going in tomorrow. It's amazing what you can accomplish through the internet and with forums like this. If I actually get paid I owe a great debt of gratitude to you all.

    Blake Cantrell.
     
  10. HDTVsportsfan

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    That's outstanding. Good news to hear.
     
  11. Rich

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    How did you do that? Send a link? One thing I've learned over the years is that companies don't like to see negative reports in print.

    Hope everything works out for you. Please let us know what else happens. Very informative (and perhaps, a little scary) thread you started.

    Rich
     
  12. HDTVsportsfan

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    Yea...i wish we were able to get some concrete answers. I know this would differ from state to state. But I still don't see how the homeowner gets pulled into this. Other than proving they are paying there bills to DirecTV.

    I'm not sure construction analogies really are the same here. The homeowner had no agreement w/ the Install company or the istaller. It was w/ DirecTV. I'm hard headed sometimes, so maybe it's just me. Although, I wonder what the fine print is on the work orders that get signed.

    Either way, hope it works out for the OP.
     
  13. BNUMM

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    The homeowner contracts with D* or E* and D* or E* contracts with someone to install the equipment. The installer makes an improvement (and satellite service) to the property. That is all that is required.
     
  14. joe diamond

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    I have seen the lien idea kicked around for years. I am pretty sure the installers do not really want to drag the homeowner into court or even get paid by the homeowner. The idea is to get DTV to shake the tree from their end.

    Joe
     
  15. cantrellswire

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    Exactly.

    I have no problems with my customers. Even the ones who are rude sometime. Trust me, I know their frustrations. A lien was a last resort.

    Mastec (Advanced Technologies) Has stepped up and is taking care of me. I should see a check in about 6 weeks. Money in the bank. They'll be taking the money out of TCI's hold back. :-D I'll keep this thread updated.

    I want to thank everyone so much for their support. This site and it's visitors are incredible.

    I'm so excited to continue installing for DirecTV and I'm so glad they are taking care of me.

    :D
     
  16. Rich

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    Agree with you, I do about the homeowner etc. I should have a contractor here today or Monday and I'll ask him how it works. He uses subs a lot.

    Rich
     
  17. HDTVsportsfan

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    The problem w/ the construction analogy is the fact the home owner has had an opportunity to discuss the terms and conditions w/ the general contractor or sub. As far as the homeowner is comcerned it is free thru DirecTV or what is it 99dollars now. How does the homeowner know what the fee is that the installer is being paid. At that point does the installer get to make it up (That doesn't apply to the OP). How would the average homeowner know what the fees are being paid to the installer are unless there is custom work being done and would then been discussed w/ the homeowner.

    I don't know, maybe I'm way off on this.
     
  18. cantrellswire

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    Well, it's been five weeks now and I've been sitting back quietly awaiting my check to arrive in the mail. I wrote Advanced Technologies (Mastec) three days ago asking for an update and I've received no contact back. I've tried to call the gentlemen I spoke with and he does not answer and his voicemail is full. I'm going to give it one more week and I am going to continue filing. I can't believe the bs I have to go through to get paid.

    Also, I'm working with a new company who for the most part has been pretty great to me. However, I was recently charged $380 for a "Lost" receiver that was installed 2 days after I returned it! I was not told about this deduction until I got my check. Isn't that illegal? I was never given the opportunity to dispute it.

    WTF! DTV! Why can't you take care of your own! WHY DO I HAVE TO FIGHT FOR MY PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  19. HDTVsportsfan

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    I'm sorry to hear this cantrell, I was hoping it would be a little easier for you than this.

    Keep at it.
     
  20. eandras

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    I don't know if you signed a contract or not but if you did there might be a clause about this in that contract. If you don't have a contract you should be notified of the charge as they can not deduct anything out of your paycheck if you are an employee. If you are a contractor it is not considered a paycheck but a paynebt for a service. Again you might have a case for this with the labor department with your state.
     
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