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Working eSata Setups:

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by houskamp, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. tictok

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    My understanding of the marketing translation is Sata = 1.5 ; Sata 2 = 3.0 ; and, Sata 3 = 6.0 (all in Gbps)
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    That's why discussing the cable's parameter (important one !) we need to understand its physicals ,not to try decipher the marketing plot.

    And, ummm, it's SATA and eSATA and eSATAp - all of them are acronyms, not words;
    not Sata.
     
  3. Volman

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    P,

    I find it amusing that you repeatedly correct posters for using "eSata" or "sata" or "Sata" or whatever (which we all can obviously decipher), when we have trouble reading many of your posts due to the poor English. Not to mention your typically condescending tone.

    Does it help all of us posters to see you constantly correcting everyone on really insignificant things? Don't you think it would be more civil to be NICE........and stay on-topic?

    Fred
     
  4. Rich

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    Haven't seen any complaints about the TT docking stations on this forum. I have a couple, tho. For one thing the on/off switch is very delicate and if used a lot will fail. Better to use the power plug to turn them off and on, I think. Another problem I see with them is that as they age, it gets more difficult to seat the HDD in the dock properly. I've got a couple like that. Takes me longer to seat the HDDs and reboot the HR and dock to see if it works than it does with new TT docks.

    Aside from those two minor problems, I still use mine and will continue to do so. Just keep in mind, cheap is cheap and I've taken a dock apart and they're pretty simple devices.

    To answer your question, If I had an HR21, I'd go with the TT dock. Should work fine, just make sure you have the HDD properly seated.

    About the Amazon reviews, I do read some of them and I'm always surprised at the reviews of everything. Seems like most folks buy stuff and can't figure out how to get that stuff to work properly, so they blame it on the device, not their own ignorance.

    Rich
     
  5. Rich

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    A truly great troubleshooter (don't consider myself one) will only fix one thing at a time so that they will know exactly what the problem was when it's fixed. I usually do so many things when something doesn't work correctly that I have little to no idea what actually fixed the problem. Problem with a truly great troubleshooter is it takes him forever to get something fixed. I haven't got the patience for that.

    Probably wasn't the eSATA cord, but it would be interesting to see you put the original eSATA cord back on and see what happens. My guess would be the updated software corrected the problem.

    Rich
     
  6. tictok

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    I will try switching the eSATA cord, but it will be a week before I can do it and another week to test with my current schedule. I work in IT so I am a pretty good troubleshooter. But the situation of an unhappy wife and the HR-34 being my 'Production' environment, demanded all resources thrown at it to resolve the issue, versus the luxury of having Dev, Test, and Acceptance environments, as I do at work!

    As an aside, there was also the 3rd possibility of either the software upgrade or the 'better' cord would have fixed the issue. If the software upgrade reduced the I/O traffic between the MB and the disk, which the 'better' cord could have handled without the upgrade, then either change may have resolved the issue. As a true troubleshooter I would have tested all 4 combos of 2 software releases and 2 cords. But when I come home, enough of the work mentality and more of the 'let us be entertained' mentality.

    Thanks for everyone's helpful comments. Cheers!
     
  7. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Nay "If the software upgrade reduced the I/O traffic between the MB and the disk, which the 'better' cord could have handled without the upgrade" doesn't work that way. Perhaps your got the analogy from traffic on streets of Sacto. :)
     
  8. Rich

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    I never got a chance to troubleshoot without being under pressure to get equipment running immediately. I guess that became ingrained in my mind. Once I solve a problem, I usually just pack the possible solutions in a corner of my mind. I rarely go back and fiddle with a working device.

    Rich
     
  9. Volman

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    Rich,

    Do I ever agree with that! Same goes for plumbing and electrical work....but especially for DirecTV's external drives. If I do a simple plumbing job and get no leaks....it always leaks if I tighten the fitting a tad more to be sure. I believe in leave well-enough alone!

    Fred
     
  10. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Good Lord !

    Now ppl coming into computers, DVR world with plumber's analogy.

    If it's too comprehensive for you, why not just accept the fact of your own level of incompetency and stop making attempts to understand it at level of 'tightening sewer tubes' ?
     
  11. Volman

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    Why are you such a jerk? I'm competent enough. My eSata experience has been VERY successful.

    What's wrong with an analogy that you, obviously didn't understand. Having trouble with English again?????

    You continue to be arrogant and condescending in tone to many posters. WHY? IMHO, it's big man behind a computer syndrome!

    The only thing remotely "sewer-like" is your constant badgering of other posters, who you deem to not be worthy.

    I ask, as I did in another post: why not be civil to others???:nono2:
     
  12. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I'm civil in contrary as your flaming posts. And stay at factual adequate level, not such frivolous analogy.
     
  13. Volman

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    Jeez,P Smith.

    Grow up.....and quit TELLING me what to do. You do NOT run this forum.:lol:

    Let's get back on topic.....as I asked you to do before.

    Fred
     
  14. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    That's what I expected from you long time ago ... stay on topic, please.
     
  15. CCarncross

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    Just add him to your ignore list....works a treat.
     
  16. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Exactly ! You don't need to read my poor English posts.
     
  17. Volman

    Volman Godfather

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    Your poor English is not what concerns me!

    BTW, P Smith. In your "About Me" section under your personal profile, you list "colon-scope" under:Your DBS and/or Satellite Radio Equipment.

    What are you using that for???::lol::lol::lol:
     
  18. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    well, that would be enough for off-topic

    stop by and I'll glad to demonstrate the device for you :D
     
  19. Volman

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    Uh, No thanks!

    So you are doing self-colonoscopies! That explains a LOT!


    Fred
     
  20. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    nope, only for those ppl who are flaming at forums and demonstrate outrageous ability to present complicated electronics as plumbing ;)
    and btw, it's nor "self" type device, you must be presented in person to give you some measures of your capabilities :D
     

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