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Working eSata Setups:

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by houskamp, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. Aug 5, 2011 #1761 of 2284
    Rich

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    If it was selling for $5 I wouldn't buy it. I keep telling folks not to buy Seagates, they just get noisy. Buy what we keep recommending.

    Buy a WD EURS, or an EVDS or an EADS or an EARS, but don't buy a Seagate unless it's a Seagate Pipeline. And I wouldn't trust the Pipeline. Get one of the WDs.

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  2. Aug 9, 2011 #1762 of 2284
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    Here is my working setup on an HR20-700:

    Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB SATA III Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD20EARX

    Thermaltake Max 5 Active Cooling Hard Drive Enclosure with Two 80mm Blue LED Fans USB 2.0 eSATA ST0021U - Comes with an eSATA cable and a USB Cable.

    Both items bought on Amazon.
     
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    P Smith

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    It's the same as EARS but 6 Gbps.
     
  4. Rich

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    How much noise does that enclosure make? The fans, I mean.

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  5. Rich

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    And the transfer speed gets knocked down in the enclosure to 3Gbps and 1.5 Gbps in the HR, right?

    Is that version of the EARS more expensive than the 3Gbps model?

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  6. CCarncross

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    I'd certainly assume so, a 6GB/s drive is wasted in the current line of dvr's. Unless you can get them on sale cheaper than the EURS drives, I dont see any reason to spend the extra money on them.
     
  7. P Smith

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    Right.
    Would be interesting to get external drive from HR25 models to check if the drives going down to 1.5 Gbps during negotiation with main chip of HR25.

    Should be, I didn't keep my eye on 6 Gbps drives - no place for them before they will use 10k or 15k RPM spindles.
     
  8. tbolt

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    Very quiet.

    Unless you hold it up to your ear, you don't hear it.
     
  9. tbolt

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    3Gbps = $75.00
    6Gbps = $98.00

    I may use the drive for a different purpose someday.
     
  10. Rich

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    I read all the preceding posts on this subject yesterday and gave it some thought. I can't help but wonder if the original 6Gbps transfer speed will have an adverse effect on the enclosure, which is usually the weak link in this particular chain. Be interesting to see how long you can run your setup without anything bad happening. Not wishing you any bad luck, just curious. Hope it runs well forever, but it seems a bit extreme. Glad you tried it and hope you will keep us updated from time to time on this thread.

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  11. P Smith

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    Good point - if the enclosure doesn't support 6 Gbps, then it will negotiate to 3 or to 1.5 Gbps. Then all the premium $$ will go down to drain. :(
     
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    Regarding 6 Gbps (SATA 3)
    The new standard is backwards compatible with SATA 3 Gbit/s (SATA 2)

    It's the drive electronics that do the switching between the SATA3, SATA2 or SATA1 protocol, not the enclosure.

    I don't see anything extreme about it.

    An extra $20 and I have the latest and greatest drive that I can deploy
    on another platform if I choose.

    Something bad happening, right, you guys are amazing..
     
  13. P Smith

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    There is no SATA3 standard.

    You will not gain that 6 Gbps speed due chip's limitation in your enclosure and (what is more important) in your DVR.

    It will bee good for PC with SATA-2 3/6Gbps ports in case if the drive will be heavily loaded by reading/writing commands.
    I'm still questioning if it really have advantage over 3 Gbps drives while the drive still rotating at 7200 RPM.
     
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    SATA Revision 3 .... See this link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

    Yes, I know I will not gain the 6 Gbps speed with my DVR or enclosure.

    Yes, it would work good in a PC if the ports supported it.

    The advantage over a 3 Gbps drive is that it will run at 6 Gbps
    if I later choose to connect it up to a SATA revision 3 PC Motherboard.
     
  15. P Smith

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    Perhaps you missed that phrase and mistakenly use wrong wording:
     
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    You're right.

    The technology itself is to be referred to as SATA 6 Gb/s.

    Thanks
     
  17. Rich

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    My post wasn't meant as criticism, it's just that we've seen external devices fail more often than other components. And that external enclosure was meant for 3Gbps, not to step down a 6Gbps HDD. That's what concerned me, no reason to get angry. Yours is the first setup using that particular HDD and enclosure and we're curious as to how it will work and how long it will work.

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  18. P Smith

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    Yeah, don't forget to come back here after month (at least) using it with DVR ...
     
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    I am also using the Thermaltake Max 5. I have two running now. The first has been running since Feb. The second I installed yesterda. One on an HR21-700 and the second on an HR23-100. I love it. It is much quiter than the Antec Mx-1. I also have two Antec Mx-1s. One on and HR24 and one on and HR22. I cannot hear the TT Max 5 at all.

    The only thing I don't like about the Max 5 is it's bright blue LED. I covered it with some duct tape. With the LED covered I have to put my hand next to the fan to tell if the drive is running. I can't hear it in a quiet bedroom.

    The Max5 is eSATA/usb 2.0. It appears that it is being replaced with the Max5G which is usb 3.0.

    My hard drives are WD EARS or WD EURS.
     
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    What model number is your 24? 24-xxx?

    I tried an MX-1 with an EVDS drive on my 500 and it had the same adverse effect on the 500 as the TT docking station/EVDS did.

    Rich
     

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