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Working eSata Setups:

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by houskamp, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. bsan

    bsan New Member

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    True that. However, I don't think you'll see any kind of comprehensive study with nearly the sample size of the Google paper. I'd guess they go through tens of thousands of HDD's every year if not every month. Also they are brand agnostic, consuming drives from all major manufacturers (don't know if that increases variance in the study or not).

    It's comforting to understand that HDD failures normally occur within the first 3-6 months of deployment and healthy drives have flat failure rates until after year three (3). This pretty much mirrors my personal experience (both in DVR usage and desktop usage).
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    As you knew (or feel) your or my personal experience (covering how many ? for my life 1000 drives perhaps) wouldn't play when we're talking about millions of HDD in DVRs.
     
  3. Diana C

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    Nope, not on the HR2x DVR. The HR34 doesn't buffer when off, but that doesn't automatically mean the drive is idle either.

    Edit: After posting, saw inkahauts said essentially the same thing.
     
  4. franklin_planner

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    I bought a Thermaltake/EURS combo and attached it to my HR24-100. That works great.

    However my Whole-Home is messed up. My HR34 and H25's don't see the
    HR24-100's recorded programs. I can only access the external drive from the
    HR24-100. I can access the HR34's recorded programs from there as well.
    Is this the expected behavior or can I get the HR34 to see the external drive
    connected to the HR24-100?

    Thanks for any help.
     
  5. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Since external drive always replacing internal, there is no difference in functioning.
    Something different happened - try to reboot other devices.
     
  6. Diana C

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    Check your whole home settings on the HR24... Make sure you have "share playlist" and remote access enabled. These settings may have defaulted to off with the new drive.
     
  7. Rich

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    Isn't there a protocol when resetting MRV using the HR34? Seems as if that was one of the reasons I was put off by the 34. If I recall correctly the 34 had to be rebooted at a particular time, first or last. With 10 HRs, adding a 34 would have made rebooting an even worse nightmare if I had to reboot all of them after, say, an NR. If MRV would even work with 10 HRs and a 34. (I know the 34 is an HR.)

    Another thought, is MRV counting the number of tuners or the number of HRs when it is reset?

    Rich
     
  8. Diana C

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    MRV only cares about DVRs...it doesn't care about tuners.
     
  9. Rich

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    OK, that answers one of my questions. What about the protocol for resetting the MRV? Is the 34 reset last or first?

    Rich
     
  10. memphistinker

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    After reading this thread COMPLETELY (along with several others over the past 3 months) . . . I ordered the following to install on my 20-700 receiver.


    1 x ($119.99) Western Digital AV-GP WD20EURS 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM $119.99
    1 x ($24.99) Rosewill RX-358 V2 BLK (Black) 3.5" SATA to USB & eSATA Ext. Enclosure w/Int.80mm fan

    Carefully placed WD drive into the Enclosure. Unplugged receiver. Attached eSata to both Enclosure and Receiver tightly. Adjusted enclosure switch to "On" position and plugged in Enclosure power cord. (2) Blue Lights on left and hum of fan for 30 seconds. Plugged in Receiver.

    DirecTv messages came on screen "Please wait . . ." Another Blue Light on Right of Enclosure lit up. Lengthy sat. program loading. Picture came on.

    20-700 DID NOT SEE DRIVE . . . Repeated this process 3x's. Rich or SOMEBODY please tell me what I am doing wrong !!!
     
  11. Volman

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    Sounds like you did everything correctly. The main thing is to make sure the external HDD has spun up before starting the DVR....which you said you did. Some have mentioned issues with the eSata cables, which I have never had. But you might try another cable.

    Fred
     
  12. P Smith

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    memphistinker,

    While booting, press SELECT and run diags tests for INTERNAL and EXTERNAL drive. Post the codes here.
     
  13. Rich

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    Huh. Fred's right, you did everything correctly. Are you sure the HDD is seated in the enclosure tightly? Do you have another eSATA to eSATA jumper cord? If not, try reversing the jumper cord. Do you have another HR, any model? If you do, try the external setup on that.

    You might have a bad enclosure, even tho it's new. Did you place your hand on the enclosure and feel the HDD spinning up?

    Rich
     
  14. Rich

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    Not yet, let us determine if the enclosure is working right.

    Rich
     
  15. Rich

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    I've only had one "bad" eSATA jumper cord. Still have it, don't really think there's anything wrong with it, it just wouldn't work with a dock that is pretty old. Took it off and replaced it with an old Cavalry jumper and reseated the HDD in the dock and it worked.

    I had one other problem with an eSATA jumper and reversed it and it worked. Still can't understand why. Don't really care why, but it never hurts to try that.

    That's the same enclosure you use, right?

    Rich
     
  16. P Smith

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    I would go to PC for mention checks, but if he don't have eSATA connector, the DVR's tests will show us SOME real facts to discuss.
     
  17. Volman

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    He has the same enclosure, but a newer version (V2) that some say is problematic. I have 3 (on DVRs and PCs) that have been flawless. Have another (NOS) for backup that I'll never need now that I got the HR34 and 24.

    Fred
     
  18. tictok

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    For what it's worth-
    I have the newer version Rosewill RX-358 U3C with the 3TB model of the WD AV-GP drive attached to my HR-34 and it fired right up with the included cable, performing the same procedures. No issues with MRV. I have an additional HR-24 connected to my network.
     
  19. Rich

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    Thing is, the enclosures and docks are cheap and prone to failure. The most dependable device I've found is the Thermaltake docking station. He might have just gotten a bad enclosure. There have been problems reported with getting the EURS HDDs to be recognized by the HRs.

    So, even tho most external devices and HDDs work right off the bat, we still see some problems.

    About "For what it's worth", it's good to post that you have working equipment similar or exactly like the equipment that another member is having problems with. Narrows down the possibilities for us.

    Rich
     
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    No protocol that I am aware of, at least not anymore. I have reset different units for different reasons at different times and it has made zero difference. The only "protocol" that needs to be followed in terms of when you reboot which is if you are trying to make the hr34 use less than all its tuners, and there is zero reason to ever do that.

    Rich, just curios, how many dvrs do you have now, and how big of a hard drive do you have on each of them? How many actual tvs do you have?
     

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