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Would You Pay $5/month to add DLB, eSATA, PIP, etc. to Your HR20?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Milominderbinder2, Sep 9, 2007.

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  1. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

    Oct 8, 2006
    Jay, your TV is the key to this working well...

    My new 73" Mitsubishi is so easy to set up for this. You just click the two inputs you want to do as split screen (PIP). Click Format to toggle screen sizes. Click between the audio inputs. For me, nothing short of PIP is real DLB because it is only live if I can see it! :)

    I also tried it with the 6 year old Sony 61" HDTV. It's PIP is just as easy.

    Next I tried the 32" Sony LCD. It is not PIP but it is so easy to just click off all the inputs but the two you want.

    It is fun to have the news up in a little box if I am watching for a story or to have a game on in the background. It is also fun to watch two evening news programs at once and just toggle to the interesting one.

    I do not know what capabilities your TV has so this may not work for you.

    - Craig
  2. jaywdetroit

    jaywdetroit Hall Of Fame

    Sep 21, 2006

    Trust me - it would not work well with my TV - at least not to my expectations. (Frankly - I have tried. It was not worth the effort.)

    So now i should go out and buy a new TV to make it work? Sure - as long as D* foots the bill for the TV and the second receiver.

    While I do not believe DLB will come to the HR20 anytime soon, the only real solution is to design it into the box.
  3. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

    Oct 8, 2006
    If someone has Sony's or a Mitsubishi like mine, they might also be able to have a full-blown DLB PIP like I have. I am just trying to offer an option that I really like.

    Maybe others will as well.

    In no way am I trying to tell you to buy another TV. I just want to offer options where possible.


    - Craig
  4. Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Add to this that my biggest HDTV doesn't have two 1080i inputs, only the one. With true DLB I don't have the problem of looking at 480p on one of the tuners.

    And why should I have to pay extra that is a standard feature, IMO.

    By this example, if I buy two yugos, does that give me 8 cylinders? :D

  5. JonW

    JonW Icon

    Dec 21, 2006
    Biggest feature is being able to record up to 4 streams at the same time. We replaced our HR10-250 and H20 with a pair of HR20-700's from pretty much the get go. If you already have another receiver in the house, there really isn't any extra charge.

    The trick with sharing the hardware (which is not insignificant) is how to deal with video distribution and remote controlling all the gear. We have some money invested in video matrix switches and RF remote control to deal with this.

    Now if they could just add HD MRV ...
  6. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

    Oct 8, 2006
    I updated the origianl post in the thread so say:

    How well this works depends on the capabillities of your TV. You need 2 HD inputs and ideally a simple to use Picture in Picture (Split Screen).

    - Craig
  7. Steveknj

    Steveknj Icon

    Nov 14, 2006
    Well, that's a very narrow minded view. That is the way YOU use your DVR, but not me. If you watch sports, than DLB is big, since most sports fans like to watch games LIVE.

    Double the storage space - As we get more and more HD, there will be less and less space available on your DVR. Some of us record shows for us, a spouse/SO, kids, roommate or whatever. So, your point is valid if it's just one person, but space can fill up quickly if you are recording for a bunch of people.

    PIP - Again, sports is the theme here, many of us like the idea of watching two games at once, and me for one, doesn't have PIP on my TV, so having PIP in my DVR would be a nice feature.
  8. bcrab

    bcrab Legend

    Mar 6, 2007
    NO They rob me enough already. lol
  9. mnbulldog

    mnbulldog Legend

    Aug 25, 2006
    The only feature listed by OP that Tivo had was DLB. Otherwise it didn't even come close to features of the HR20.
  10. islesfan

    islesfan Hall Of Fame

    Oct 18, 2006
    Sorry, all I still want is CIR, and 15 HR20's won't solve that one!
  11. fwlogue

    fwlogue Godfather

    Dec 5, 2006
    yes after talking with them for about 20 minutes that is when the credits starting coming.
  12. hasan

    hasan Well-Known Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    Ogden, IA
    Yes, I did and got a very good deal...but not to do what Craig suggests (which has merit as a work around), but rather to put a new full installation from the ground up on the north end of our house (wife's private setup). I had been waiting for six or seven months to do this and Craig's post motivated me to make the call. I'm VERY glad I did. I'll have a new HR20, Dish, Cabling and install to compliment the existing setup on the south side of the house. (No more making DVD copies of General Hospital and playing "foot network" to her DVD player).

    So, while I didn't use Craig's info for the intended purpose, it made me get off my duff and finish what I started months ago. Way to go Craig!....and thanks for the reminder.
  13. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

    Oct 8, 2006
    Adding PIP DLB...$5 a month on debit Master Card

    Watching your team win and Satellite Signal Strengths at the same time...



    In The Words of Dilbert: I Have Achieved Nerdvana

    - Craig

    (From the HD Anticipation Thread. And you thought PIP DLB had no real application!)
  14. MurrayW

    MurrayW Legend

    Apr 13, 2006
    I have Sunday Ticket and can pretty much watch 4 complete football games in 3 hours with my 2 HR10-250's. I can't see not watching these games "almost" live because you are constantly bombarded with the scores of other games as you are watching one game. This is what I do:

    Tuner 1: Set it to the channel that my favorite team is on -- Chiefs
    Tuners 2 - 4: Set them to games that are close. If a close one becomes a blowout, I will substitute another one for it.

    Then I go and watch a couple of series on each channel using the 30 sec skip for commercials and huddles (Peyton Manning with the no huddles makes this difficult to do for the Colts). It usually takes 5 or 6 minutes to watch the couple of series on each channel and catch up to real time at which time I pause and go to the next buffered channel. This way I get to see my favorite team and 3 of the best games. When the late games come around, I feel like I can almost relax only having to go back and forth among 3 games! I don't see this being that easy with HR20's -- that's why I am hoping for dual live buffers by this time next year when I'll need the HR20 to watch NFL Sunday Ticket.

    I know that others may not want to watch games like this, but this is how I like to do it and I want the HR20 to be able to accomodate my viewing habits.

  15. mtnagel

    mtnagel Hall Of Fame

    Sep 18, 2006
    Well I want the HR20 to make my breakfast and take the dog out... :D

    Just kidding, but first, :welcome_s

    Second, I'm honored that my post made you post your first post (that's a mouthful). Anyway, it sounds like the HR20 will not allow you to watch football the way you want. That sucks. But my head hurts just thinking about watching football like that. My wife gets mad when I jump around between 2 games :)
  16. billyhol

    billyhol AllStar

    Dec 15, 2006
    I already pay enough...
    No - I would not pay any more...
    And the only way that I would like to see this is if somebody pays my $5 a month...

    What would be next pay five dollars a month more everytime they make a software update? Directv is not even stingy enough to actually think this would work. Remember even if you get a 100% response from this crowd of television addicts the average Joe would not pay for it... thus it will never fly! And thank God for that...
  17. cowart

    cowart Mentor

    Aug 27, 2007
    Sports programs can be recorded and watched later, just like any other program. You don't need to watch them live. They won't evaporate.
  18. ziggy29

    ziggy29 Icon

    Nov 18, 2004
    San Antonio DMA
    No, but for most people they aren't much worth watching if you've heard the scores of the other games you've recorded. These days, with "tickers" constantly updating other games, it's pretty hard to watch one and not know the outcome of others going on at the same time.
  19. CliffV

    CliffV Legend

    Jan 24, 2006
    I didn't originally follow this thread because I thought the the premise of the title was silly.

    But once I did read it, I realized that I've implemented that exact solution. I've even got 750GB FreeAgent Pros on each.

    I love my four tuners and 1.5TB of storage :)
  20. bcrab

    bcrab Legend

    Mar 6, 2007
    ummm still NO
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