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WSVN Fox Channel 7 Miami saying bye to Directv?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by gteach26, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. joshjr

    joshjr Hall Of Fame

    Aug 2, 2008
    NE Oklahoma
    Not true. Just means you probably need a waiver.
  2. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    Although in Florida, I don't think mountainous terrain can be an issue? ;). Maybe buildings. :)
  3. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    Hey now, we have mounds of dirt down here that can be around 10ft tall. :D
  4. bossfan50

    bossfan50 AllStar

    Apr 28, 2007
    These transmission fee fights are getting tiresome. Last year it was Versus, now it is Sunbeam. Who's next?

    Thankfully OTA is an alternative in case this hits the Super Bowl. I can't believe that advertisers who paid a million and more per minute will be happy with a major city like Boston being affected especially if the Patriots are in the Super Bowl.
  5. JMII

    JMII Legend

    Jan 19, 2008
    South Florida
    Now I missed my HR20-700 and its built in OTA tuner... guess I'll be getting an AM21 soon. This weekend I plugged my OTA into my TV and its fine, but I'd rather use DTV's user interface, ability to pause/record, plus my surround sound is hooked up to the HR24-500. I like keeping my OTA around during hurricane season, since rain fade kills your signal just when your glued to the TV trying to get the best local storm info.

    I can't wait for the day when we can finally get ala-carte pricing and these greedy stations realize nobody is paying for their crappy programming. I only watch WSVN for football and the Sunday night block of cartoons, their "it bleeds it leads" news coverage is the WORST! Thus technically any FOX station will do, and I live far enough north in Broward to get WPB stuff OTA. The neat trick about that is WPB is its a different market as far as the NFL goes so I sometimes get extra games during the regular by switching between FOX stations.
  6. Brunotheboxer

    Brunotheboxer Mentor

    Apr 27, 2007
    What Sunbeam does and my dog poops I put on the same pile.
  7. NR4P

    NR4P Dad

    Jan 15, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    And I am in the WPB market near Runner and get the Miami market with my antenna, and I am quite far from you. One nuance you may notice with the HR24-500 is when the AM21 is connected and you use the GUIDE or LIST, the small live picture may break up a bit, briefly. Don't worry your HR24-500 or AM21 isn't bad. That's normal.

    Have had two 500's and tried this with AM21's and AM21N's and its just what it is. At least for me. A very minor annoyance.

    Good luck!
  8. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    Don't hold your breath, ala carte won't happen. There are a couple of threads on here explaining the financial reasons why ala carte has been refused by providers.
  9. Mark Holtz

    Mark Holtz Day Sleeper

    Mar 23, 2002
    Sacramento, CA
  10. secondclaw

    secondclaw Cool Member

    Oct 25, 2009
    I live in a condo. With the antenna, surrounded by concrete and rebar, I get channels 4 and 6 and nothing else no matter what I do. Since our building is under Mdu contract I cannot even switch away. So I hope nobody assumes that its so easy to get 7 via alternate means. My guess this will finally be the last straw that will move the building back to Comcast after the contract is over ... Sad.
  11. -Draino-

    -Draino- Godfather

    May 18, 2008
    New Hampshire
    Will the AFC/NFC Championship game be on any other channel other than my local channel? Right now Channel 7 (WNDH a NBC affiliate) is gone!!
  12. trainman

    trainman Hall Of Fame

    Jan 9, 2008
    Well, the AFC Championship is on CBS and the NFC Championship is on Fox, so no worries there for you.

    If you meant the Super Bowl, no, that's going to be on NBC. However, you can check Channel 392 to see if DirecTV has activated that for you (it's possible, with you in Manchester). I also note that it's two and a half weeks until the Super Bowl, and DirecTV may well come to terms with WHDH's ownership before then.
  13. ChicagoBlue

    ChicagoBlue Godfather

    Apr 29, 2011
    This is exactly why bills go up. Cost of programming is the highest line item by far from an operating cost. If channels come down, customers are rightfully upset and want them back up immediately. To do that, typically a deal has to be reached which most certainly is more costly than the deal that just ended. What DTV and every other distributor are trying to do is contain those cost increases as much as possible and that sometimes leads to these events. 300% increase is a huge increase and these types of increases set the market for other retrans deals where other stations say "look at what XYZ got, we want the same for our new contract".

    I know, I used to negotiate these types of contracts in the industry. DTV is stuck between a rock and a hard place. The same customers screaming here (or elsewhere) for their local channels to come back on at any cost are the exact same ones that will scream when their bill goes up.
  14. mx6bfast

    mx6bfast Hall Of Fame

    Nov 8, 2006
    At any cost? I haven't seen that mentioned here.

    I expect my D* bill to go up, I don't expect a local channel to go dark because D* isn't paying them an insane increase. Sorry but I blame WSVN on this one.

    I've already voiced my opinion to them, told them they gave me a great reason to setup my antenna and start watching FOX from WPB now.
  15. miro

    miro New Member

    Jan 14, 2012
    actually WFLX in West Palm has the same dispute but with U-Verse, they averted a shutdown by Dec 31st, and stretched the negotiation until early February but they too almost removed their station from U-Verse. Their costs have increased due to FOX's demands, and being 3rd or 4th in ratings probably doesn't help them much since they can't charge for advertising like a #1 station can. Incdently in the last year they've sold their offices off, and sold their newscast rights to WPTV for $1mil+ last year and moved into their studios.

    The fees themselves can be considered a license to carry a particular channel, since DirecTV charges people to get those channels, makes profit and probably like Comcast sells commercials and inserts those within a station's newscast ad time.

    You can bet more disputes like WSVN/Directv are coming, NBC and CBS want to get $1+ for their stations. FOX has also removed stations for not getting the fees they want.

    Plus, if you want sports the cost to license NFL etc is steep, in the billions, and someone has to pay for it. The fact that ad dollars have increasingly been moving to the web and mobile doesn't help either.
  16. -Draino-

    -Draino- Godfather

    May 18, 2008
    New Hampshire
    Yes I meant all of that!!!!

    Channel 392 is not activated for me. It says I have to have a subscription. I wonder if I can get them to activate it so I can get NBC nationally and not have to deal with a local affialiate???
  17. bearcat250

    bearcat250 Legend

    Feb 19, 2004
    I have already called DTV to try and get the NBC & CW east coast feed during this negotiation but was told that because of federal regulation it was not possible. I did get a one time $5 discount.
  18. NR4P

    NR4P Dad

    Jan 15, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    How often does one get to really have an impact? Here's a stroke of luck in timing.
    Hope this makes the Broward-Dade folks feels a little bit better.

    My home is a Nielsen home, well very shortly. Even though I can get WSVN OTA and occasionally do tune it, during the Nielsen period, I won't let any TV in the home go to WSVN.
  19. BLMN

    BLMN Mentor

    Sep 6, 2011
    Southern NH
    i wonder why directv dont give us in new hampshire WCSH instead of WHDH.

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