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XM lets many PD, onair talent go...

Discussion in 'Sirius XM General Discussion' started by syphix, Oct 14, 2008.

  1. Oct 14, 2008 #1 of 174

    syphix Hall Of Fame

    Jun 23, 2004
    From DCRTV.com:

    and from AllAccess:

    and DCRTV.com (today...updated):
    So, if you take it that the PD's/MD's (program directors, music directors) being fired indicates a "dropped" channel in the merger, that would mean...

    - 50's on 5
    - 60's on 6
    - 70's on 7
    - 80's on 8
    - 90's on 9*
    - America
    - Suite 62
    - X-Country
    - XM Cafe
    - Lucy
    - Deep Tracks*
    - Ethel
    - Raw
    - XMU
    - Soul Street
    - The City
    - Viva
    - Aguila
    - Boneyard
    - Fred
    - XMLM
    - The Groove
    - America
    - Beyond Jazz...

    ...are gutted. :(

    *90's on 9 has no airstaff, but the PD, Kurt Gilchrist was let go. Deep Tracks has GTM retire "voluntarily", though some say he would have been let go eventually anyway.

    #The latest update from DCRTV.com has Marlin Taylor's name removed from the list of those let go. So, perhaps 40's on 4, Escape and Enlighten (or something like them) are still safe. I've removed them from the list.

    NOTE: George Taylor Morris is rumored to have left due to lung cancer (and perhaps the writing on the wall).
  2. Oct 14, 2008 #2 of 174

    ThunderRoad AllStar

    May 12, 2006
    And it sounds like they could be reneging on offering ala carte (a big selling point to the FCC). According to Radio & Records:

    Another date being tossed around is Nov. 5, when it's rumored that a new combined Sirius XM lineup will be rolled out -- rather than doing an a la carte/pick from both sides dealie like had been previously announced, it's looking like both will consolidate into a single channel lineup that will be beamed out over both Sirius' and XM's networks.
  3. Oct 14, 2008 #3 of 174

    syphix Hall Of Fame

    Jun 23, 2004
    They won't be reneging on offering a la carte...they simply will only allow picking from the new, merged lineup, and not "some from XM, some from SIRIUS". That's still, I believe, following the conditions of the merger...just not as hoped by most subscribers.
  4. Oct 14, 2008 #4 of 174

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Some from XM, some from Sirius is not scheduled in November. Never was.

    They need the multi-service radios to do that. The first thing we will see is the a la carte radios for each service.

    Why can't people in the media keep this straight. First was the "Best of" then the a la carte *then* the single radio for both services. They haven't even announced the packages for the single radio yet.
  5. Oct 14, 2008 #5 of 174

    bjflynn04 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 27, 2004
    I was using the new xm2go music manager that I just downloaded from the xmradio site to manage the songs on my inno and noticed that on the xm content that songs I had recorded off 47- ethel the channel was listed as 47- ATN Radio and the songs recorded off 68- The Heat was listed as 68- Top 12.
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  6. Oct 14, 2008 #6 of 174

    syphix Hall Of Fame

    Jun 23, 2004
    Hmmm...just for the heck of it, I recorded a couple others...

    159 - ATN Radio shows up as 159 - Sports Guide
    143 - XM Sports Guide shows up as...143 - Sports Guide

    ...so, it stops there...so far...
  7. Oct 14, 2008 #7 of 174

    tvjay Godfather

    Sep 26, 2007
    I don't know what is going to happen or not happen, but did anyone actually think that Sirius was going to improve XM? Any corporate takeover means FEWER jobs. Always has and always will. The FCC had the regulation that said there were to be two licenses held by two individual companies. Well guess what that was there for a reason. COMPETITION! The fact that there is no longer competition for satellite radio will mean fewer offerings from satellite radio, PERIOD.

    My theory: One music channel for each kind of music (I was actually hoping to have The Beat 36 and BPM but I guess I won’t get that anytime soon). There will probably also be a couple less niche channels and a bunch more sports channels.
  8. Oct 14, 2008 #8 of 174

    Dolly Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    I just felt all along we and the FCC were being lied to so the merger would pass. But being merged is not going to do Sirius/XM any good, if they both start to lose their customers because of line up changes that people don't like.
  9. Oct 15, 2008 #9 of 174

    YKW06 Legend

    Feb 2, 2006
    For that matter, it won't help if the FCC realizes that it was lied to; the FCC's approval of the merger was conditional, and the agency retains oversight over those conditions. Going down the road Mel seems to favor risks massive fines and/or a forced dissolution of the merger, neither of which would bode well for either the company/ies or the subscribers.
  10. Oct 15, 2008 #10 of 174

    paulman182 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 4, 2006
    They've lied before, so it is not much of a stretch to believe they would lie now.

    And they'll probably get away with it.
  11. Oct 15, 2008 #11 of 174

    syphix Hall Of Fame

    Jun 23, 2004
    Where has it been proven that SIRIUS/XM has "lied" to the FCC?? They said from the onset that "duplications" would be merged/deleted in order to cut costs... This is part of that.

    As much I hate that Lucy & Deep Tracks look like they're gone, I knew it was possible and likely. And the released names was by accident on XM's side...we don't know who/how many got fired from SIRIUS (though I do doubt it's as many).
  12. Oct 15, 2008 #12 of 174

    paulman182 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 4, 2006
    They said that dual-format receivers would be available soon after the two services were originally launched. That was a lie.

    They originally agreed to the stipulation that the two services would never merge.

    Although not technically a "lie," they have been cited by the FCC for illegal power output from their FM modulators, and improper operation of the terrestrial XM translators.

    These breaks would certainly have not been given to traditional broadcast radio or TV stations. And yet the satellite broadcasters still can't stay afloat.
  13. Oct 15, 2008 #13 of 174

    syphix Hall Of Fame

    Jun 23, 2004
    They said a la carte within three months. They just introduced that...almost a month ahead of schedule. They said dual-format receivers within 9 months. (PDF proof) They're on track to do that...some say by Christmas or mid-January.

    And they aren't...completely. Just the music channels. They ALWAYS said the music channels would probably merge soon after merger.
    And they never said "never".

    ...for which they paid a $20 million fine.
  14. Oct 15, 2008 #14 of 174

    paulman182 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 4, 2006
    The dual-service receivers were promised way back when XM and Sirius went on the air. I'd say they are a little behind schedule.

    Yes, the two services have merged. That was the FCC holdup--the law had to be changed before they could do it. It is even starting to look like the channel lineups will be identical, although that has nothing to do with whether the two companies have become one or not--they obviously have.

    The record is there for anyone to see ; it's not really debatable as to the past honesty of the two companies. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't argue on the forums, because what one other poster thinks is really not that important to me.
  15. Oct 15, 2008 #15 of 174

    syphix Hall Of Fame

    Jun 23, 2004
    They never promised one. They were required by the FCC to develop one. Well, they did...they just both thought that there was no financial reason to sell it, since they couldn't subsidize such a receiver and possibly not get the subscription to fund it. BTW, why wasn't DirecTV/Dish Network required something similar?? Ah...the NAB...that's right...
    SIRIUS & XM never said they wouldn't merge. But yes, there was a "rule" (not law) that forbid them to merge. But laws are not always perfect, and can always be repealed/changed.
    Agreed. And don't get me wrong: I'm NOT a fan of what's happening, but I can't say I didn't see it coming. I just thought it would be more of a "merger" than a "takeover". I was wrong.
  16. Oct 15, 2008 #16 of 174
    Lee L

    Lee L Hall Of Fame

    Aug 15, 2002
    Well, I expected this from the beginning, but I am still dissapointed to see it come to fruition. Given how Sirius has much shallower playlists, this will be bad for many XM listeners. I had help out a glimmer of hope that they would allow some of the goodness of XM to rub off onto Sirius, but I guess not.

    Hopefully, they will at least keep Fred.

    And we can argue till teh cows come home about the Dual radio thing. The SATRAD cos say they never needed to actually sell the thing, but why on earth would the FCC write that into the licenses if the intent was not to have it be available to the public. Congrats on their lawyering skills (and boo to the FCC for not making it more clear), but surely they do not expect the public to beleive that interpretation.
  17. Oct 15, 2008 #17 of 174
    Steve Mehs

    Steve Mehs Hall Of Fame

    Mar 21, 2002
    So when will it be announced that Madison and Kayla of Sirius will be gone? Oh yeah it probably won't, Sirius likes to have airhead on air personalities that babble about irrelevant stupidness. Since the merger was approved I dropped one XM subscription and Sirius Internet Radio Premium, keep pushing me, I'll be gone. If Trinity is released from Watercolors, another XM subscription will go.

    Merger of equals, my ass.
  18. Oct 15, 2008 #18 of 174

    syphix Hall Of Fame

    Jun 23, 2004
    Per AllAccess.com, XM Cafe's MD Brian Chamberlain and Cathy Carter are leaving...so, that sticks a fork in XM Cafe...
  19. Oct 15, 2008 #19 of 174

    archer75 Godfather

    Oct 13, 2006
    No point in keeping duplicate channels of the same music. We all expected such channels to get dropped which is fine.

    I GREATLY prefer Sirius over XM anyways. And the channels they are keeping are the various talk, news and sports which is about the only thing I want from XM. So it works out great.
  20. Oct 15, 2008 #20 of 174

    jimmyv2000 Hall Of Fame

    Feb 15, 2007
    Manchester NH
    i hope big tracks xm-49 and top tracks xm-46 stay i like my commercial free/dj free tunes!

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