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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Carl Spock, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. Sep 1, 2012 #81 of 103
    Carl Spock

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    Back to my new gear. I have a HR34 question:

    I own a Sony DVD recorder with component video inputs. The source has to be 480i for the DVD recorder to see it. When I had it hooked up to a HR23, it worked fine for dubbing. I had to trick the receiver by turning off all resolutions except 480i but the HR23 then fed 480i out its component video jacks.

    I can't get the HR34 to do the same thing. When I set up the home theater system today, I could get the DVD recorder to record just fine from the HR34's composite video output, switching the HR34 over to SD, but I couldn't get it to put a SD signal out the component video jacks. In SD, the jacks were dead. In HD (and I'd leave the HR23 in HD when I used this trick before), the DVR on its own switches the resolution from 480i to 480p. The DVD recorder won't record a 480p signal.

    Is this a bug that I can expect to get fixed with time or is this just the way the software works with this piece?
     
  2. Sep 2, 2012 #82 of 103
    Carl Spock

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    Regarding my previous post:

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    "Carl, we hate to tell you this but you are
    the only soul who has tried to get 480i
    from the component outputs of a HR34"


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    I can take a hint.
     
  3. Sep 2, 2012 #83 of 103
    VLaslow

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    Mr. Spock, a very impressive setup. And, yes, it's the contract not the body that will be expiring. :lol:
     
  4. Sep 2, 2012 #84 of 103
    hdtvfan0001

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    Obviously this technology has a money back guarantee... :D

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  5. Sep 2, 2012 #85 of 103
    Carl Spock

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    McCoy: Perhaps, we could cover a little philosophical ground. Life...death...life...things of that nature.
    Spock: I did not have time on Vulcan to review the philosophical disciplines.
    McCoy: C'mon, Spock, it's me, McCoy. You really have gone where no man's gone before. Can't you tell me what it felt like?
    Spock: It would be impossible to discuss the subject without a common frame of reference.
    McCoy: You're joking!
    Spock: A joke...is a story with a humorous climax.
    McCoy: You mean I have to die to discuss your insights on death?
    Spock: Forgive me, Doctor. I am receiving a number of distress calls.
    McCoy: I don't doubt it.
     
  6. Sep 2, 2012 #86 of 103
    AnonomissX

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    Actually, it means you need to upgrade your DVD recorder /me ducks:D
     
  7. Sep 2, 2012 #87 of 103
    canekid

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    I leave my HR20-700 on to of my HTPC, and then I park a couple of USB HDDs on top of that. No prob. The HR20 is dedicated as a video server and a slave to the HTPC. Like you I don't worry about heat. These units seem indestructible. Knock on wood, (knock, knock, knock)
     
  8. Sep 3, 2012 #88 of 103
    Rich

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    Wish that was true, but they're not. I've been having problems with mine (five 20-700s) for a while. I can usually fix the problems, but I don't see the same problems with the 24s.

    Rich
     
  9. Sep 4, 2012 #89 of 103
    canekid

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    It that because they are old or because they aren't designed as well as the HR24s?

    Do you believe DTV doesn't want these units back, or is that just rumor? I have heard it both ways. I certainly like that they have OTA built in. However, DTV has given me HD locals, more channels than I can currently get OTA, primaries only though. OTA I get tons more sub channels, but most of it is junk.
     
  10. Sep 4, 2012 #90 of 103
    Rich

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    I would think it has to be age. Mine are used constantly and they seem to be developing problems. Still have a couple that "seem" rock solid, but one of them just started randomly rebooting. I really can't think of another reason why this would happen other than age.

    True, it is. They don't want them back. I'm not sure whether that's age related or the 20s have reached the point where D* can't use them as a tax write off anymore.

    The interiors of the 24s are very different than the 20-700s. I have several owned 24s and I've changed power supplies in a couple, one for a friend, and it takes less time to do that than it does to install an HDD. I have looked and looked at the 20-700s and I can't see a way to change the power supplies. Never had a working 20-700 go down due to a bad power supply, but I was curious. In short, the 24s are much easier to work on than the 20-700s are.

    Does that make it a better DVR over the long haul than a 20-700? I simply don't know. They are faster, easier to work on, nicer looking and seem very reliable, so far. We won't know if they'll last longer than the 20-700s until a few more years pass. I don't use the 20-700s for anything but servers now. I really prefer the 24-500 over the other two models.

    Rich
     
  11. Sep 4, 2012 #91 of 103
    Volman

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    Rich,

    I was not aware that the HR20's were starting to fail. My current DVRs are an HR20-700 and a 100. I run eSata's on both. So, if they fail, I'll want something that works well with eSata. I saw you mention that the HR24-500 was iffy with eSata.

    Bottom line is: what receivers currently available....and one I'd likely receive is DirecTV using for replacements? BTW, I'm happy with a 1TB size and use off-air.

    Thanks! Fred
     
  12. Sep 4, 2012 #92 of 103
    Diana C

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    We have 2 HR24s, 2 HR21s and 2 H25s. If it were not for the lack of a live buffer on the H25s, I use them in place of the 21s. The 24s are in our two main viewing locations because they are infinitely faster than the 21s. We use the H25s in the kitchen and the spare bedroom (where it also hosts a Slingbox) because, again, they are fast and we can live without the buffer in those locations.

    One of the 24s replaced our old HR20 when its drive failed...since we lost all the recordings anyway, we figured we would retire the box before it failed from age.

    IMHO, the HR24 is the only DVR to use for viewing. The slow response of the older DVRs is simply too frustrating. We have 1TB externals on both HR24s and both started up without any hassles. Of course, you'll need an AM21 for off-air with a 24, and those are reportedly getting tougher to get.
     
  13. Sep 4, 2012 #93 of 103
    Rich

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    I'm not sure the 24-500s still have that problem. I only have one leased and I had a terrible time getting the TT + 2TB drive recognized. Ended up using a brand new TT and that finally worked. None of the external devices I used were faulty, I took them from other HRs where they were happily chugging along and put them back on the same HRs where they are still working.

    I have three 24-100s that are leased and two of them have the docks on them and work well. I had one owned 24-200 and it worked well with a dock, too. Damn near impossible to put an HDD in them. Not easy with the 24-100s either. But both the 100s and the 200 worked well with the TT docks and the WD Caviar Green HDDs.

    One word of caution about the 200s and the 100s, the nuts that hold the coax cable barrels are usually loose and if you tighten the coax fitting it will turn and break the link inside the box that connects to the barrel. In other words, because the nut is not properly tightened, the barrel turns.

    Rich
     
  14. Sep 4, 2012 #94 of 103
    Rich

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    If you read my answer to Fred it will agree with your post. Are either of your two 24s 24-500s?

    Rich
     
  15. Sep 4, 2012 #95 of 103
    Diana C

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    One is a 500, the other is a 100.
     
  16. Sep 4, 2012 #96 of 103
    Volman

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    Thanks,guys. Any idea what DirecTV is typically sending out as replacements for HR20s that die?
     
  17. Sep 4, 2012 #97 of 103
    Carl Spock

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    Whatever is in the barn.
     
  18. Sep 5, 2012 #98 of 103
    Rich

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    Is the 500 the one you had the failed external HDD on? I'd like to hear from more people that are using externals with the 24-500s and see if the original difficulty has been resolved.

    Rich
     
  19. Sep 10, 2012 #99 of 103
    Carl Spock

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    The 2 way splitters for my distribution came on on Friday and I replaced the 8 ways with them over the weekend.

    I took this opportunity to do some overall updating of my distribution. I'd added and changed things over the past couple of years but hadn't really tucked away wires and redid the looms. The Monoprice HDMI splitter that feeds the output of the HR20 to both my basement and kitchen got mounted to the board and I swapped out the Nuvo power amp that drives three pairs of speakers on volume controls with a Sonance one. I had compatibility issues with the Nuvo amp.

    Also added to the distribution was a bumper sticker I recently found throwing out old paperwork. Some of you veterans will recognize its sentiment.

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    Do you folks know what a great deal this Sonance amp is? It's been my go-to amp for nearly twenty years. Now discontinued, the Sonance Sonamp 260 came in different versions but all were winners. It is ultra-stable. Designed for whole house speaker distribution, a standard set-up has it driving 3-5 pairs of speakers in parallel. One version of the amp was the Sonamp 260 x 3, which had a built in three speaker switcher that allowed you to have all three pairs on at once. The Sonamp 260's sound is very warm and easy to listen to. It lacks authority below 50Hz but I'll give up deep bass for musicality any day. I've recently purchased many Sonance Sonamp 260 amps on Ebay for between $50 and $100, depending on their condition and era, and been happy with every one. I'm using two of my Ebay finds around my house right now and have sold maybe half a dozen to friends who needed a good, cheap power amp.

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    Bartender: I wish you hadn't told me the reason why his name is really Hairy Mudd.
     
  20. Diana C

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    No, the HDD failure was on the HR20-700. Both of my HR24s have nearly identical external HD configurations: WD 1TB AV drives (one EURS and one EURX) in Vantec NexStar CX enclosures.
     

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