YouTube TV finally adds Viacom/CBS Channels

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  1. 1948GG

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    YouTube TV finally added the rest of the channels, BET Her, Dabl, MTV2, MTV Classic, Nick Jr, NickToons, and Teen Nick that they had been charging for the last 9 months ($15).

    If they messed up more of their roku app programming, we'll all find out in short order. I finally emailed a comprehensive report detailing all the programming mistakes google has made with their roku apps over the last month yesterday, mistakes/changes they had made without the required submission to roku's programming checks, as required by their agreement with Roku to be included in the app store.
     
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    Unbelievably, there are 'journalists' out there that are joyful that fees were not hiked with the addition of this second round of viacom/cbs channels. Stupid! As subscribers have been paying for these channels for 9+ months since the last rate hike, yet not actually receiving them!

    This as the national internet grid has been melting down the last 72+ hours, resulting in transfer rates dropping anywhere from down to zero to a trickle. Go to downdetector to watch the mess IF you can get to the website.
     
  3. James Long

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    These will go toward the next price increase. Never mind the thought that they should be included in the last one.
     
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    Haven't noticed any internet melting down here (Illinois) the last 72 hours.
     
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    Yeah. Late this year or maybe early next, I expect we'll see YTTV add some or all of the rest of the channels they're missing (History, A&E, Lifetime, Hallmark, Hallmark M&M) and bump the price again up to $70 or $75. And maybe at some point they'll extend that odd 9-month retention period on cloud DVR recordings out to an even year.
     
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    If your isp has direct fiber to closest google and/or microsoft server plant, which avoids the public internet when you are streaming from the large streamers like netflix et al, you might not, but try and contact or transfer data across the country you're in big problems. Chicago is a big red splotch on the downdetector web site, as are all other major cities across the nation.
     
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    Unfortunately you're probably correct. Disney bumbed up a buck, the disney/espn/hulu bundle got bumped as well. Then tmobile yanked home internet up $60/month. Here we go.
     
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    At home I have Spectrum Residential 10/200 service and at work we have Spectrum Enterprise 50/50 service and we have customers that upload to our web server many times a day from all over the country. Haven't noticed any problems either sending or receiving files to/from any locations all week.
     
  9. 1948GG

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    Then it may be comcast only related, do you know who they use for their tier 1 transport?
     
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    No I do not have any idea.
     
  11. James Long

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    No problems here (not Chicago but fed off of their market). I have a remote desktop connection up constantly and have seen no failures.
     
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    Comcast has been aligned with level3 for ages, they (level3) have acquired by several companies, including Global Crossing (which is when I first started doing some engineering with them) and wiltel then GC got bought by level3 then eventually it all got bought by CenturyTel, which is now Lumen. But as Comcast uses them for nationwide transport, it tends to manage a lot of the network as a kind of 'network within a network'; exactly where the management lines are, are hazy. I'll bet when major screwups occur, like now, lots of finger pointing occur. Most if not all users simply want it fixed, and so far it hasn't.
     
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    Well, didn't take long for the incompetent google programmers at youtube tv to start screwing things up. Today's obvious mistake: used to be able to fast scan the live grid by holding the down or up arrow on the remote, that's been taken out of the roku app, you have to single click to move in any direction, which since there are upwards of 120+ channels now takes forever to move around.

    In addition, Several of the channels added a couple days ago no longer appear in the 'quick networks' guide, which are brought up by the remote down arrow from any playing program.

    These are obvious mistakes, unless of course they intended to make navigation of their app harder an more convoluted, that's a distinct possibility.

    Yet more: when playing a dvr'd program, using the fast forward or rewind no longer increases the speed if one holds down the button; the speed stays at '15sec'. The result is it taken forever to scroll around the program, a particular problem as the 'resume from last watch' or ' start from the beginning' of the program usually do not operate correctly and need to be adjusted by the ff or rewind.

    Why are the google programmers not seeing these errors? Just lazy would be my guess.
     
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    I’ve consistently seen folks complain about issues running the YTTV app on the Roku platform. Not sure why they don’t fix it. We don’t do Roku (FireTV, Nvidia Shield, and ATV 4K) so really haven’t seen many issues.
     
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    Which is funny because I see a lot of people also complain about the ATT TV app on Roku also. Maybe there is a common denominator
     
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    My guess would be that in both cases the main target environment is Android and since Roku is a custom Linux build it suffers when they port the app code. No excuse though. They should put the time and effort into it.
     
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    Funny, I feel like I've seen folks saying that Roku has the best AT&T TV app while Apple TV has the worst.

    That said, I do get the sense that Roku is a more difficult platform to develop for.
     
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    On Reddit.. Roku is the number 1 platform i see complaints about buffering etc with ATT TV
     
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    With my Roku Ultra the ATT TV app is the best version other than what’s on the Osprey box. The worst problem on it is that if you skip a few times it often loses lipsync requiring you to exit and restart the app. Otherwise I haven’t had any other issue with ATT TV and Roku. To be fair I don’t use it as often as other boxes though.
     
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    The loss of lip-sync is a problem that's been there for literally years. The 'fix' has been to 'bump' the stream reverse (or with a dvr'd program forward) just a bit and that would generally get it to sync.

    The last couple of weeks, that's been the one thing that has tended to dissapear; you could see the system take a few seconds extra when changing streams, like from live to dvr or the reverse, where it took a bit of thinking to insure the sync was there. At least, that's what it appeared to do.

    Of course, I've never had a sync problem with any other roku app, from netflix to hbo max, but I dont subscribe to att tv. The only other 'live' app (other than yttv) I use on a regular basis is locast, and I've never seen sync problem with that. Or indeed pluto tv which has some 'live' channels as well (never had sync problems ever on it as well).

    But as until recently it was a continual problem with yttv, I'm not surprised other apps have the same kind if problem.
     

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