YouTube TV finally adds Viacom/CBS Channels

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  1. 1948GG

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    Actually, it's one of the easiest, as shown by the length and breath of the apps that it has, which is why I chose it over other boxes. But that apparent ease perhaps has led flaky programmers (and ones who don't test their product out very well if at all) to think they've done a good job.
     
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    It has a ton of apps because there have been so many Rokus sold. Early on, Roku did offer devs a basic template that many used -- it was really basic and ugly-looking, but a lot of apps were built on it. But Roku phased all those apps awhile back, forcing devs to create more graphically sophisticated apps for the platform. They needed that to happen because old-style Roku apps were looking increasingly dated compared to apps for Fire TV and Apple TV.

    Roku is challenged by the fact that it's its own separate thing. Fire TV and Android TV are just extensions of Android, the world's most popular mobile OS. And Apple's tvOS is, of course, just an extension of the iPhone's iOS, which also has a ton of developers and extensive developer tools. But Roku is just Roku.
     
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    Roku just a month or so ago came out with a new developer toolkit to help folks yank their apps up to supporting the newer units.

    But at the end if the day, it's still up to those developers to thoroughly test their product, and submit that product to roku for their testing, before the app is allowed to be listed on their site and boxes. But it appears to me that many are making changes they believe are 'small' and don't need to be roku checked, and that's what is getting them into trouble. So in one sense, its roku that is helping to cause the problems. One thing for sure, I'll continue to send bug reports as I find them, period. I pay good $$$ for access to these apps, and I expect them to run right; and I don't see the flood of problems yttv has on any others.
     
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    I use a lot of Google stuff (Pixel phone, Nest Hub, Nest Mini speakers, plus various apps and services) and I can tell you that they're very, very fond of continually iterating their software/UIs/features. And generally, over time, that continual tinkering is for the better. But it can definitely introduce bugs and frustrations along the way.

    All that to say, if you're looking for the stability and reliability of a traditional cable TV service, I don't know if YTTV is the best option for you. I'm not sure if any streaming cable TV service is, really, but one from Google might be especially vexing for you.
     
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    Cable stable and reliable? Exactly when (or where), pray? I've had CBand, Dbs (both DirecTV and Dish), and basic cable throughout (from 1982-2018) to get local channels, and the almost daily outages and screwups had me reaching for the sat remote more often than not. This was not just in one city or area, but in at least 15+ across the US.

    YouTube tv worked almost perfectly, the biggest problem being the lip- sync, since I subscribed when psvue went under. Its only been the last 3+ weeks that it's really gone downhill, along I might add with YouTube, as they added 'neat' things like the starting screens and the like.

    None of the problems added are hard to find or replicate. Anybody doing a simple review of its operation would find them. But that's the point: the programmers aren't doing any review.
     
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    Anyone launching yttv this morning will notice that changes have been made to the app, as it will reload. However, the major problems I've noted in the last couple weeks are still there, from live grid no longer fast scanning (up or down, single click/step only), ff or rew scanning of dvr'd program stuck at 15sec per click (no longer speeding up when button is held down) to roku screensaver launching when live or dvr'd program is paused. In short, to visable changes I have yet noticed.

    In talking to my neighbor, they noticed the quick channel scan (launched by pressing the down arrow on a live program) has slowed down going left or right. I hadn't quite noticed that as it is still fairly fast, but it has slowed down. So that's another mistake.
     
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  7. NashGuy

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    LOL, sounds like you're someone who finds fault with everything then.
     
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    On my Roku Ultra 2020 the YTTV app live guide has fast scanning and ff/REW scanning is working as it should. 15 sec for a bump, speed changes the longer I hold down the right/left buttons.
     
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    None of mine do, including my ultra. Do you have your app updates turned off, so you have never gotten the recent changes? Which google server plant are you off of, perhaps today's changes haven't fully populated their system yet. Kind of grabbing at straws, as google complaints are mostly shut down on the weekends.

    Flash: was watching some preseason mlb on mlb app, and thought I'd try yttv as it has been 6+ hours, and I got another app update; now lots if things work as before, except for the stream pause, but still tries to load another app when you unpause the stream. So my 'local' google servers (btw, john day Oregon is mine) hadn't quite been updated this morning (6+ hours ago). So disabling the roku screensaver is still the 'fix' for the pause problem.
     
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    No, updates are set to auto and I usually check at least once when I’m actually using it. And no clue which Google server plant I’m off of and don’t know how to find out.
     
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    Google it of course. There are 13 in the US.

    First time I was there (The Dalles, OR) was at the old facility in 1998, Google bought out the partners and constructed the current facility in 2006. Last time I there was in 2017, I've also been to the Microsoft and AWS plants around washington state and if I go back far enough many of the facilities in Virginia, Mass., Conneticut, New York and New Jersey; the number of transcontinental and transoceanic fiber systems almost too numerous to mention, over 40 years.

    I'll bet everyone knows where their local tv station towers are located (their antennas now or back in the day had to be pointed there), and now that the internet is just as important as that was and perhaps still is, folks should know where these important facilities are in relation to their location.
    If nothing else, they'll know which direction to ***** at when their feeds collapse. :)
     
  12. Davenlr

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    Does it have a preview window when fast forwarding?
     
  13. 1948GG

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    YouTube TV still has the HBOMax auto renew ****** up, one has to go to the app on a phone and re-initialize the link to ones main email address before it 'remembers' things.

    Such a simple thing, that hasn't worked since roku approved the hbomax app so folks with roku could subscribe and get the full deal. Except the monthly re-initialization. Shows how pathetic the less than kindergarten programmers at Google are, I'd list all the mistakes that have cropped up just in the last month but as roku refuses to bring the hammer down on them it's no use.
     
  14. Davenlr

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    T-mobile offers $10 off a year for YTTV. I applied two days ago, and havent received a promo code yet. They sure are taking their good natured time. What could they possibly be checking that takes 3 days?
     

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