Youtube TV Price Increase

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  1. Stewart Vernon

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    About the only real gripe I have at the moment is... viewing on my computer... when I go from watching Live TV to wanting to scroll through the EPG, intermittently the mouse cursor changes focus from the EPG to the volume control... and instead of scrolling channels with my mouse I'm lowering the volume... have to just remind myself to click over on the scroll area to restore focus when I go into the EPG each time... also like the nerd-stats option because it helps me see what is going on under the covers.

    Initially my drag was my slow Internet connection... took care of that yesterday, and now my computer is the drag... I basically can't watch 1080p reliably on my computer because it drops too many frames... even 720p last night was tricky during the football game at times. I have a healthy 200+ Mbps connection and my Youtube nerd stats showed anywhere from 30-50Mbps at times, so I had all the Internet I could want... but my older (2009 iMac) computer couldn't keep up. Hopefully whenever I'm able to get a new TV I'll really get to see this streaming service shine properly.
     
  2. b4pjoe

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    A new 65" TV (not OLED) costs less than a new iMac. :D
     
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  3. NashGuy

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    Yup. Rtings.com says the Hisense H8G is the best budget 4K TV. Has full array local dimming LED backlight, quantum dot color, Dolby Vision HDR, and Android TV OS. Looks like you can get the 55" for $500 or the 65" for $700. Kinda amazing how much TV you can get now for the money.
     
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    Free preview of NFL Red Zone on YTTV through Sunday.
     
  5. b4pjoe

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    The 75" is only $1299.99 on Amazon. Still cheaper than a new iMac.
     
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  6. Jhon69

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    It should not surprise you it's made in China,make sure to get the extra warranty.
     
  7. Jhon69

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    Welcome Back Stewart, those who stream have their own reasons,my reasons were the "because we can fees" box rental,contracts,HD fee,outlets fee ect.
    Because there are no"because we can fees" the services will always be cheaper,except for maybe AT&T streaming services.
    There are also several free streaming services that is the unknown that streamers have available to them.
     
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  8. Jhon69

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    Do you need a new TV? The reason I ask there are several that say"keep your streaming device separate".
    I have the Roku Streaming Stick+ it only does WiFi,if you have an ethernet connection close to your TV I would recommend the Roku Ultra.
    These streamers do 4K or 1080p.You might want to research streaming devices as there are several.Good Luck!
     
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  9. wmb

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    In the past, the argument in favor of keeping the streaming device separate was the fact that the apps were not maintained. Every manufacturer had their own platform, most weren’t maintained, so the built-in platforms became abandon-ware.

    New TVs, last two years or so, have very similar streaming capabilities as streaming devices. Many are converging on the Roku or Android TV OS, a couple use Amazon. Assuming the TV manufacturers are licensing the OS, I would assume it gets updated like a standalone device.

    The exceptions are Samsung (Tizen) and LG (webOS), who control something like 25% of the smart TV market, each. Also, Apple TV.

    If I were in the market for a new TV, I’d give serious consideration to using the built-in device capabilities.


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  10. lparsons21

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    My TV is a Sony 900E with AndoidTV on it. Yes, the apps seem to stay up to date, but I’m not fond of sluggish operation, and that describes how they work quite well IMO.

    I use it as a 75” monitor, even my OTA is done via an external device. Next TV will be the same for me. Don’t care if it has ‘smarts’ or not.
     
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  11. NashGuy

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    Yes, made in China, same as TCL. I never buy extra warranties, just make sure to purchase with my Amex which doubles the manufacturer warranty.
     
  12. mjwagner

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    The problem with most tv’s streaming capabilities is under powered processors resulting in sluggish performance and insufficient storage. For a large majority of consumers it’s probably fine but if you are after any kind of higher end capabilities, ATMOS sound as an example, you are still better off buying a TV for its video display capabilities and buying a separate streaming device. Even looking at streaming devices their is not a single streamer that will do it all depending on your requirements.
     
  13. RichardL

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    Completely agree with problems with native streaming ability - I have the high end LG OLED W series - the picture is stunningly good. I also have the highest tier of ATT fibre to the building with 1Gbps rates (max). Yet streaming YTTV with the built in WebOS app was becoming increasingly frustrating - it seemed that PQ was actually reducing over time.
    I just bought an AppleTV and the PQ for the same stream from YTTV is astonishingly better - absolute night and day. So basically I have disconnected my LG from the internet and now use it as a display device for the ATV only now.
     
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  14. Stewart Vernon

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    Thanks! Yeah, I've found a lot of good free services and services that have a lot of free content even if they also have a paid tier. Basically I had a few years where I kind of couldn't afford anything really, and dropped completely out of all the paid TV stuff... now I'm starting to dip my toes in again, and coming at it fresh I decided to give streaming a try since I have no built-in loyalty anymore at this point to tie me to any particular service.

    In my case, around the time I had to let go of subscribed services, my TV also started to go south. I have what used to be a nice Samsung DLP rear-projection TV but it's the model with the DLP chip that has the stuck mirrors over time... so everything I watch on it now is in a blizzard! :) So I've started doing most of my TV watching on the computer.

    The TV itself can be repaired, assuming the DLP chips are still available, but even so the cost of the repair is somewhere around $500... so I decided that I'm better off just picking a decent "entry" level 4KTV in that price range. That way, I don't spend outside my "repair" budget and I still get a TV that is way better than what I have now and no snow scenes except when there's supposed to be snow!

    Oh, and I had a suspicion some of the streaming on the TV might be sluggish based on some other threads I've read... even if better than my TV... so I also intend to have an Apple 4K TV device connected to whatever TV I get, which is another reason to go "cheap" on the 4KTV so I can sneak the Apple TV hardware in under the wire.
     
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    If it were me would spend a little extra for a good display (TV) and grab a FireTV Stick 4k when they go on sale (I paid $25 each for the 4 that I have). That will work fine until you can afford the ATV 4k.
     
  16. Stewart Vernon

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    I'm still shopping around... seeing what goes on and off sale. I'm not rushing to buy a TV until I get a good handle on things. I'm basically trying to not pay a lot for the muffler, so to speak, and since I'm looking for what might some day become my good second TV whenever I can afford a better main TV, I'm willing to compromise in some areas to keep the cost down. I have some other non-fun-based priorities that I have to budget for as well... so I'm not pulling any triggers just yet, but am definitely stepping up the shopping and research.
     
  17. B. Shoe

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    I'm riding this train. I've tried to maintain/update Smart TVs (Samsung/Vizio class level) at my parents' home, along with a couple of friends. Continually encounter freezing of apps, slower load times, sluggish performance, etc., Even some stalling on the streams. Let the monitor handle the output, let a streaming device handle the content. I'm sure at some point in the future my stance will change on that, but for now that's how I prefer to handl eit.
     
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  18. b4pjoe

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    If you can wait a couple of months I'm sure you can save some $$$$ during Black Friday sales.
     
  19. Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah, depending on how things time out I might very well still be looking/shopping by Thanksgiving... and if I get close, I'll probably wait to see. It's also possible I might find a good enough deal in the next month that I'd be happy with and jump on that. I have no real solid plans and am just looking everywhere to see what is available and general price ranges and what you get at what price points.
     
  20. Jhon69

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    I just googled best time to buy a new tv? and the answer was Black Friday and Cyber Monday.I remember last year at that time.
    The manufacturers bought out tv models that were missing certain items like no HDR,ect.
     

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